[nagdu] Crossing a highway

Sat Jul 27 16:54:53 UTC 2013

Oh, I don't think fears are shameful. I did think, though, that the notion of respecting traffic might be better than fearing it, but respect may often be a healthy fear, until it becomes an unhealthy one.

Cindy

On Jul 27, 2013, at 11:40 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:

> Hi Cindy.
> I don't think fears are shameful.  One just has to work to keep them from taking over.  Sometimes I still have to gather up my nerve before I sally forth. Things can be scary.  But it's worse to allow myself to become a prisoner in my house, afraid to go where I want to go.
> And some situations are just dangerous.  I worked very hard to get an audible signal put in at a T intersection near my house, so I could cross the street without taking my life in my hands. It's made a big difference in where I feel safe going.
> Tracy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Crossing a highway
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> 
> I told that to Walt Sutton. LOL. But of course you have to develop a healthy respect for traffic. I don't go enough, and the places hereare challenging. I can walk around easily downtown, but out here where I live, I have developed some shameful fears.
> 
> CL
> 
> On Jul 27, 2013, at 11:12 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
> 
>> After I listened to the TSE traffic lecture, I called a friend and told her I was never crossing a street again!  It's a scary lecture.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Crossing a highway
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>> 
>> Seeing Eye traffic lecture says that a dog can’t reliably judge any faster than 30 MPH, and they don’t train for that. At 30, a car moves a couple undred feet in just two seconds. Something like that. I have to dig up the traffic lecture recording. I do remember, anyway, that we never got such detail at GDB.
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:12 PM, Darla Rogers <djrogers0628 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for that, Doug; I had heard something of how dogs can or can't judge
>>> speed, so this is a very good fact to have when making crossing decisions in
>>> areas that aren't the safest.
>>> Darla Who doesn't want to become road pizza
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Parisian
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:20 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Crossing a highway
>>> 
>>> Tracy, I agree; I have crossed highways only when there is no other option.
>>> I understand that although a dog may see a car coming, they real can't judge
>>> whether they will cross before the car hits much above 15 miles per hour.
>>> 
>>> Doug: getting squished by a car makes one two-dimensional.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:20 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Crossing a highway
>>> 
>>> 
>>> : Marilyn, while it's true that a dog will refuse to go if she sees a car
>>> : coming, it's also true that she can only see so far, and, if a car is
>>> coming
>>> : fast, as they do on highways, she may not see it far enough away to react
>>> : quickly enough to save you both.
>>> : I know this from both lectures and bitter experience.  I was hit trying to
>>> : cross Jericho Turnpike one night.
>>> : I'm with Cindy.  I don't like crossing highways at all anymore.  I know
>>> : sometimes it's the only way to go, but I would much rather not.
>>> : Tracy
>>> :
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