[nagdu] How long is "successful"

[Larry D. Keeler]

The probblem is that after one leaves school, they may or may not keep in 
touch with the school much. I for instance rarely call Pilot because I feel 
and so far have been right that I don't really need them that much. And, at 
least the human part of the team can sometimes become lax. They stop 
brushing every day or start giving more treats and human grub to the dogs. 
The schools might not know every team as intemately as they wish too. Often, 
by the time that an issue gets to the school it is probably more serious 
than expected. Not always but I'm guessing that a lot of folks who need help 
wait untiol it is getting unsafe to work as a team.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] How long is "successful"


> True, but I still think it would give some idea of how well a school is 
> doing. At least it would give a ballpark number to look at.
> If the dog gets seriously ill at a young age, I would not really call that 
> successful.
> If it's a struggle, but the team stay together, I'd still call it 
> successful.  My first dog and I had our problems, but we worked together 
> for about 5 years.  I call that successful.  My Ben is not perfect, 
> either, and I have to work to keep him in line even now, but we do very 
> well and have worked together for 6 years now.  So it can be a struggle, 
> but still successful.
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How long is "successful"
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>>I think "successful" is a very difficult thing to define. What if you had 
>>your dog two years and the work had been great, but that dog got sick or 
>>so traumatized that it couldn't work anymore. But they were successful up 
>>to that point. What if someone works with a dog but it is a struggle the 
>>whole time, but they don't say anything to anyone about it. Is that 
>>success? I just think success is a little hard to define in black and 
>>white terms.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 7:03 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Darla asked how long a team has to be out to be "successful".  I'd say 
>>> at least 2 years, just to put a number on it.  Or possibly 3; I could 
>>> argue either way.
>>> I'd be real curious to see numbers from schools of teams graduated, and 
>>> partnerships that lasted 3 years or more. I think that should be a 
>>> pretty good indicator as to how well the school is doing. I mean, if 
>>> school X put out 500 teams, and 300 of them stayed together, that's only 
>>> a 60% success rate, and not so good.  But if 400 of them worked 3 years 
>>> or more, that's 80% success, which is pretty good.
>>> Tracy
>>>
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