[nagdu] finding the end of a line...

[Raven Tolliver]

Honestly, I do not have the slightest idea as to how a deaf-blind
person would find the end of a line. I never taught, and don't rely on
my dog to find the end of a line because in the places I frequent,
there are multiple lines. When I went to a festival, they had about
twenty different lines for all the food stands. When I am at the bust
station, and we have to wait in line to get on the bus, I take it upon
myself to find out what bus we are at, then I will command my dog "to
the door." If there is a line there, he will stop at the end of it. At
some of the restaurants I go to, there is a line for people to order,
and a separate line of people waiting for their food. I always just
ask the first person I encounter: "Hey, which line is this?" Unless a
deaf-blind person had someone with them, or ran into someone who could
communicate with them efficiently, I don't see a way to find the end
of the line. I am not saying this is impossible, I'm only saying that
my experience with deaf-blind people is very limited, and so I am
unfamiliar and ignorant about the way they problem solve and do a
number of things.

-- 
Raven

Sent: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:57:21 -0400
From: Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
        <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nagdu] finding the end of a line...

All,
The subject of the thread needed to  be changed. With that I have a
question. Several people have suggested ways of finding the end of a
line, and I would say that these methods work for a blind person. I
say specifically a blind person, they do not work for a deafblind
person. Lets not assume that the methods you all mentioned are the
best for everyone. I have been in a many situation, where I am telling
my dog to find the end of the line. She sees people standing as
obstacles. If I were to use my "mouth" to ask, that also does not
meanI can hear what the person is saying back to me. If I use a cane,
find the shoe of a person, how do I know this is a line, or aa person
in the line I want. So with all thhose methods mentioned, how would
you all suggest a deafblind person find the end of the line? Next time
you  are in line, plug your ears, close your eyes, and you try to find
the end of the line. Byyy no means do I think its appropiate for a
deafblind person to cut in a line, or go right to the counter by
passing the line along together. But my point is that tthe methods
mentioned are not infact the best for everyone. Lets also not assume
that if a person who cuts in line, who usues a guide dog, is trying to
be rude.

Ok I have said my peace. All I am saying is that everyone needs to
practice tolerance and kindness.

Marsha Drenth