[nagdu] Off leash recall

Tue Nov 12 15:19:37 UTC 2013

I would never trust my dog where there is no fence. A good dog can still get excited and forget it was a good dog, and once is all it takes. My dog has really good off leash recall in the house, they all do, but outside, I wouldn't bet a nickel on it.
CL

On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:15 AM, "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at gmail.com> wrote:

> Most of my dogs have had pretty good off leash recall. One dog could be
> absolutely trusted outside in a non fenced area, and so can Olga now. But
> Bianca, my retired guide had the worst recall. If she was outside, she would
> not come till she was darn good and ready to do so. This was what finally
> sold me on food rewards, because treats could often get her to come and
> saved her life at least once I'm sure. But it was still a struggle. Then a
> field manager from GDB took me aside and gave me some advice that really
> worked. Normally, they tell us to use a warm happy sweet voice to call them
> supposedly makes them want to come. But it didn't matter how sweet I sounded
> Bianca just would not come. So, this person was working with me in a fenced
> area and he said:
> 
> I'm going to break protocol. I don't think you should make yourself sound so
> happy and sweet. With Bianca, you need to become a drill sergeant. You need
> to make her feel like she had better get her little rear over to you, or
> else. 
> 
> So, I took a deep breath and said loudly and sternly, though not yelling,
> Bianca come!
> 
> She came and I praised the heck out of her and gave her some carrots, which
> are her favorite treats. It took a long long time and lots of consistent
> work, but she now comes easily, most of the time. I have a fenced yard and
> it's nice to know that she will come to me when I need her to, though I'm
> always cautious that people are sure the gate is latched when they come to
> my door. 
> 
> Now the GDB puppy raisers are supposed to practice off leash recall with
> food rewards. When I was applying for retraining, I told them that off leash
> recall, consistent and reliable recall was an absolute must. And Olga is
> everything I wanted in almost every way, and especially her recall.
> 
> Sherry
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:13 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Off leash recall
> 
> Hi Lora.
> My first dog was terrible at off-leash recall.  She loved the game of 
> you-can't-catch-me.  I hated it!  But she'd always come if I could show her 
> the harness.  Still, I learned pretty quick that she just couldn't be in an 
> unfenced or large area off leash.
> 
> Ben used to have a poor recall, if he was out in the yard enjoying a good 
> sniff, but a few treats solved that.  He's very fond of treats.  But some 
> dogs just don't care; they want to play keep away.
> Sorry, that's not very helpful.
> Tracy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ichoosechrist2 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Off leash recall
> 
> 
>> Three years, with a 6 month break about 8 months ago.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:26 PM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi lora, how long have you had your dog.
>>> it takes time,
>>> good luck,
>>> my school had me do leash recall,
>>> in my days in tranning class.
>>> my dog does good with it.
>>> 
>>> all the best.
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 4:25 PM, ichoosechrist2 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi list
>>>> 
>>>> This has probably been talked about before. I have tried using a long 
>>>> leash and increasing the distance, but my dog knows when he is on and 
>>>> off leash and act completely differently. I have tried treats and I've 
>>>> tried corrections. The treats that I have tried include cheese, 
>>>> snausages, kibble, chicken, and nothing works. My dog acts great with 
>>>> other dogs and my dog watches whoever has the toy except me but when I 
>>>> try to do training with out dogs it is as if I am not there. My dog 
>>>> keeps showing me time and time again that he can't handle freedom. He 
>>>> will not play on Flexi lead. I know he needs to play but it is hard to 
>>>> let him play when I can't trust him. Any suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> Seems to me that a guide dog school would teach off leash recall seeing 
>>>> as we are blind it is a good skill for the dogs to have. Am I Just being
> 
>>>> too strict with my dog?
>>>> 
>>>> Lora
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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