[nagdu] Hi

rhonda cruz rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Sat Nov 16 18:10:36 UTC 2013 

 hi i have my first pilot dog sheppard.
 she is 6 years old,
 and she does a great job at work.


On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:

> I also know that Pilot Dogs train shepherds.  Either GDA or GDD may still be training them as well, but I'm not too sure.  The best of luck!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:51:59 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi
> 
> Hi,
> The majority of guide dog schools in the United States don't grant
> full ownership.  As far as I know, there are only four schools that
> grant full ownership out of the fifteen or so in the country.
> Just because certain people are concerned with ownership does not mean
> everyone has to be.  I chose Guiding Eyes, which does not grant full
> ownership of the dog.  But my desire for an adult golden retriever and
> financial assistance overruled anything else other schools had to
> offer.
> I am beyond sick of people putting down and dissuading people from
> attending Fidelco.  Obviously, I would never attend this school because
> of my breed preference, but I still cannot believe how many people are
> very anti Fidelco and believe it is their mission in life to stop as
> many people from attending that school as possible.  Fidelco is a small
> school and trains outstanding dogs so far as I have seen.  There are
> bad cases that come out of every school, and there are more schools
> than just Fidelco that have seemingly repossessed dogs or harnesses
> unjustly.  Out of all the teams that graduate from Fidelco, how likely
> is a graduate to have their dog taken from them? I just do not believe
> that this school would train dogs just to repossess them later.  How
> logical is that? How would that make them look to potential clients
> and donors? Come on now!
> Choose a school according to your personal judgment, needs, and wants.
> Yes, take others opinion into account, but talk to graduates, not just
> the bashers on this list.
> If I wanted the guarantee of a healthy, stable working, adult German
> shepherd and lived within the vicinity of the school, I would choose
> Fidelco.
> As for the other schools mentioned above.  Guiding Eyes offers home
> training, but I think that school is only issuing labradors at this
> time.  It's possible that there's some shepherds waiting to be matched
> or in training, but you'd have to call and find out.
> As for Leader and GDF, I'd say call to find out if they issue adult
> German shepherds, and if they'd be willing to do home training with
> you.  Fidelco still might be your best bet because they'll likely have
> more German shepherds on hand, and may have a match sooner than the
> other schools.
> Do your homework.
> 
> 
> On 11/14/13, barbandzoe at comcast.net <barbandzoe at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I work at a fitness club, I do laundry and locker room attendant I am part
> time right now and have no vacation and sick pay.
> 
> I had always though that guide dogs were only for people with no sight, and
> now I find that people who are legally blind can use a guide dog.  I don't
> like using a cane I feel funny.  Plus I have had abit of trouble with night
> and bright day vision since I get glaucoma.   Plus I am in my fifties and go
> home at night and I end up in the best part of town.  I have not had trouble
> yet, but all the people going to the bar and the guys out pan handling, well
> it would be nice to have a friend with me.  plus sometimes when I cross so of
> the busier streets, it is a bit of a guessing game.
> Plus I would have had a dog and time ago if I would have known this.
> 
> If it is a cane or dog, I will take the dog anyday.
> 
> Barb
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:28:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi
> 
> Not necessarily.
> Talk to other schools, GDF, Guiding Eyes, Leader, you've got nothing to
> loose.
> Leader Dogs also doesn't grant ownership.
> I'm not sure about Guiding Eyes.  GDF does.  Any school that doesn't grant
> ownership can take your dog back.  Think of it like renting.  If that gives
> you the willies, then you do need a school that grants ownership.
> Could you take medical leave or vacation time? Would you want to do this?
> I'm curious, what do you do? And, why do you want a dog now? Maybe if you
> can explain that to your employer, you'll have better luck?
> I had two dogs, and now use a cane.  If you like, email me off-list.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> barbandzoe at comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:22 AM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for that.   I don't have the option to say it's like taking classes,
> cause we have no classes to take that would help me in my job.   I am a low
> level employee and they can find some one w=else to do my job.
> 
> I have herd that about fidelco the taking of the dog.  That does bother me.
>  But if I want a dog I would have to go through them because I can't get
> that kind of time off.
> 
> 
> Barb
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:03:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi
> 
> Barb,
> Talk to your boss and present it as training like computer or other
> training, training that you will use to help make you a better employee.
> Look at your com Pany and see what types of courses they offer, many do
> offer multiweek courses of all kinds.
> I'd approach from that angle.
> As for Fildelco, you have to understand that they don't grant ownership,
> which means they can take your dog at any time for any reason.  It's be like
> if I lent you my Ipod, I could come and get it whenever I liked.  The school
> may never do this to you, but they do have that option.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> barbandzoe at comcast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:33 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi
> 
> Yes, I have herd about things with fidelco, but I don't know what the issues
> are.    I don't want trouble, and if I find they are to stricked  in some of
> their needs and conditions, I will look into another school.    If the people
> who have dogs from fidelco get this, could they tell me what I may need to
> know.  I know Seeing Eye has GSD's but they have a four week program.   How if
> I can get my  boss to let me talk that time, I would go there, or pilot
> dogs.
> 
> Thanks
> Barb
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:46:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi
> 
> Best of luck choosing a school.  Whatever school you choose, be sure to
> familiarize yourself with its contract.  Some  schools do not grant you full
> ownership of your dog and requires certain conditions be met.  There are
> several people who got dogs from Fidelco on this list.
> 
> 
> Tai
> 
> Sent  from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 8:26 PM, barbandzoe at comcast.net wrote:
> 
> II have been looking into Fidelco, mostly because they come to my house
> and train there for about three weeks, plus I really want a GSD.   It is
> hard enough to get a couple of days off work two to four weeks would be
> hard.   I know that I still have to take time off to train with Fidelco,
> but if I can't get a shift covered, maybe we could use that as a training
> session.    Plus I have two dogs at home that are my roommates, and the
> trainer could maybe help with introducing them.
> 
> Barb
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:49:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi
> 
> Welcome to the list.  It is my understanding that Guide Dogs for the Blind
> has a two week training program.  They have campuses in California and
> Oregon.  Their website is www.guidedogs.com.
> 
> Tai
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:34 PM, barbandzoe at comcast.net wrote:
> 
> Hi am knew to the list, and my name is Barb
> 
> I am looking into getting a guide dog, but haven't gotten any pepper work
> yet.  I am still looking at schools, but I am finding the 4 weeks away
> from home and work a bit much to work around.   I want a dog and hope to
> get things started soon.
> 
> Barb
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