[nagdu] Retired Guides; Do the same access laws apply?

[Marianne Denning]

When I have retired all of my dogs the school has taken the harness.
Yes, I could purchase another harness but I believe retired is
retired.  We complain about all of the people who take their pets in
and claim they are service animals.  We should set the example we
expect others to follow.

On 12/30/14, Dan Weiner via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Let's see, and who is waving this magic wand to say he's not a service dog,
> just because we utter the mystical word retired.
> He still has his training so as far as I'm concerned it's a service dog and
> frankly even if it isn't (again through this unexplained magic( if I needed
> him with me I would do whatever it takes to keep him.
>
> JMO
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer via
> nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:06 PM
> To: Chaim B. Segal; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
> Dog
> Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Retired Guides; Do the same access laws apply?
>
> Because he is no longer a service dog, it is my understanding that he is
> now
> a pet. Therefore, he would be subject to the same rules that apply to any
> other pet.
>
> Shannon and the Acelet
> On Dec 30, 2014, at 4:19 PM, "Chaim B. Segal via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All on both lists:
>>
>> Chaim Segal here. It looks as though I will likely need to move out of my
> current house in the nearly immediate future, as my mother needs to enter
> senior care. At present time, my current earnings are not enough to sustain
> rent in our current town-house. Therefore, I need to weigh my options when
> moving myself and my wife out into an apartment. Our current apartment
> manager has been gracious, and has not charged us an extra pet deposit for
> Keeper (my third guide) once he retired. We only pay a deposit for our cat
> which my wife and I purchased as a kitten around six years ago. This being
> said, I have been hearing conflicting information throughout the years.
>>
>> At some point back in the 90s, I thought I once heard that a retired
>> guide
> dog has the same access rules regarding rent and access that a currently
> working guide has. I was surprised to hear that. I was not considering the
> fact that I would need to know for sure some day.
>>
>>   Earlier this year, my mother and I attempted to take both Keeper and
> Yahtzee (current guide) to the vet on paratransit. The driver insisted that
> Keeper must be in a carrier while riding the bus. Officials at Greater
> Dayton RTA backed her up. At the time, I did not pursue the matter, because
> the driver in question is uncomfortable with dogs to begin with.
>>
>> So, I now need to know one way or the other, in order to determine how
> many pet deposits will need to be paid. The best I could hope for is to
> find
> a place where pets are welcome without a silly deposit or fee. But, is
> Keeper considered a pet, or does he still have higher status despite his
> retirement?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Chaim
>>
>> Chaim B. Segal
>> Customer Service Representative
>> Sinclair Community College
>> E-mail: chaimsegal at sbcglobal.net
>>
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053