[nagdu] Guide dog Certification WAS SB432.pdf

Tue Mar 25 21:27:23 UTC 2014

     Seems that our favourite rich western province of Alberta is 
rolling on in the usual red neck fashion.  What is the point of the 
government registration if all laws still apply, regardless of 
possession of some ill-considered nonsensical card?  We have no such 
requirements in Manitoba plus, as far as I can tell from some reading, 
and from other list comments, we have the most progressive legislation 
in North America.  Perhaps someone on the list has reviewed our 
legislation which I have forwarded to the list in the past few months.


On 25/03/2014 3:57 PM, Daryl Marie wrote:
> Just the result of 10 minutes of research tells me that in Alberta, you can apply for a Government of Alberta card that has your and your dog's picture on it.  If you are not accedited through a school, you aren't eligible for the cards, but should still have all the rights of those that are.
>
> Daryl and Jenny
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> From: The Pawpower Pack <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:47:16 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] SB432.pdf
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> Daryl,
> In the u.s. service dogs are not required to be certified.  The only requirement is that the dog be individually trained to do work or perform tasks which mitigate a person's disability.  So as an example, I am Deafblind, my service dog is trained to guide me around objects in my path, and to do other tasks to mitigate my blindness.  She is trained to alert me to sounds in my environment which mitigates my deafness.   It doesn't matter who trained her— I did— but it's not required that she come from a program.
> I do know some Canadian owner trainers and I'm not sure what the law says about their dogs.
>
> Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> “America has only three cities:  New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans.  Everywhere else is Cleveland.” –Tennessee Williams
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>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Ahhh, I got it.  Thanks for the explanation.  The one thing that stood out to me was the identification should be visible by 20 feet (or something like that).
>> I have very little knowledge of the guide dog laws in Canada pertaining to owner-trained dogs or similar, since my dog is from a school.
>> Do owner-trained dogs not have licences? How does that all work?
>> Forgive my ignorance.
>>
>> Daryl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: The Pawpower Pack <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:35:38 -0600 (MDT)
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] SB432.pdf
>>
>> Daryl,
>> several things are not in line with the ADA— which is the federal civil rights legislation in the u.s
>> Firstly, the ADA does not require that the dog be trained by a recognnized program.  The Ada requires that the dog be individually trained to do work or perform tasks to mitigate a disability.  This means the dog could be trained by a program, a private trainer, or the owner.
>> Secondly the state law gives very specific requirement about the gear a service dog must wear.  This is also not in line with the ADA.
>> These are just a couple of things wrong with the bill.
>> Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches
>> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
>> “America has only three cities:  New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans.  Everywhere else is Cleveland.” –Tennessee Williams
>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> hey, Rox'e,
>>> Thanks for sending this!  may I ask what is objectionable in this proposed law?  I will admit that I haven't read it in full.
>>>
>>> Curious,
>>>
>>> Daryl and Jenny (who is feeling insecure today)
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: The Pawpower Pack <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:04:30 -0600 (MDT)
>>> Subject: [nagdu] SB432.pdf
>>>
>>> Here is another copy of the proposed LA service animal law.  I have just been in touch with the state's advocacy center to try and change or defeat it.
>>> If you live in Louisiana please contact me.
>>> I'm hoping it attaches this time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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