[nagdu] Reply: how much should I work my guy dog?
Chenelle Hancock
filmchenelle1977 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 10 16:53:24 UTC 2014
Hello Lisa,
This is Chenelle I wanted to say that I asked the same question when I got Bono over three months ago back when I was a student at guide dogs for the blind and boring Oregon.
My instructor Michele told me that it's good to work now especially when they're young at least 5 to 6 days a week with one day off.
However, since Bono has been home with me for the past three months, we were about five days for an hour to 90 minutes roughly! We do Bus work, we walking trails we go through supermarkets and regular stores etc.
I play with him in the backyard and I play talk with him in my room because my room is big enough to where we can run around and play talk with his Tucktaway. So he gets a lot of play time and a lot of work. He's about to be two on December 25 but I haven't had any problems with him navigating me around obstacles he's got me into a few things here and there but I backtrack with him and show him the object that he bumped me into and tell him to be careful!.
So when we go on that particular route he remembers not too brought me into that particular obstacle. He's a very good guy and he listens well he doesn't get into most things and I've had them off at timeout for about a month and a half now!. Overall I enjoyed my Bono a Great deal too.
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> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 14:13:14 -0800
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> Subject: [nagdu] BrailleNote Help!
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> Hello, Friends:
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> This is not a relevant question to this group, but I am a bit desperate, so I'm writing it to every blind person I know. Please respond off-list if you have something to say about this.
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> Are any of you familiar with the BrailleNote Apex? I am in dire need of help. My BrailleNote won't reset properly. When I tried resetting it, it started out fine, but then it stayed at 33%. The only thing I can do is take out the battery, and when I do that, it still always stops at 33%. I'm going to call Humanware first thing tomorrow morning, but it is really, REALLY important that I have access to my BrailleNote tonight, so if anyone has any suggestions at all, even if it is just a whim, please let me know ASAP.
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> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:50:19 -0600
> From: Alyssa <alyssahenson95 at gmail.com>
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> Hi Rachel,
> Have you tried holding the reset button down until the device responds? I'll see if I can think of any other suggestions.
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>> Hello, Friends:
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>> This is not a relevant question to this group, but I am a bit desperate, so I'm writing it to every blind person I know. Please respond off-list if you have something to say about this.
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>> Are any of you familiar with the BrailleNote Apex? I am in dire need of help. My BrailleNote won't reset properly. When I tried resetting it, it started out fine, but then it stayed at 33%. The only thing I can do is take out the battery, and when I do that, it still always stops at 33%. I'm going to call Humanware first thing tomorrow morning, but it is really, REALLY important that I have access to my BrailleNote tonight, so if anyone has any suggestions at all, even if it is just a whim, please let me know ASAP.
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>> Thank you!
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> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:05:54 -0500
> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
> To: "'Danielle Sykora'" <dsykora29 at gmail.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing List,
> the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] puppy raising in college dorms
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> And, they don't have to.
> Your sister may need to move off campus if she wants to do this.
> Also, puppies cause problems. That's what they do. If your sister approaches
> from the angle of "and I will pay for whatever damage the puppy does", she
> may be able to convince the college to let her do this. Still, the law is on
> their side, not your sister's.
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> Subject: [nagdu] puppy raising in college dorms
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> Hi all,
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> I was wondering if any of you have raised a puppy to be a service dog while
> living in a college dorm. If so, have you encountered any opposition from
> your school and how did you convince them that the puppy would not cause any
> problems? I am asking because my sister wants to raise a guide dog puppy but
> her school told her they don't allow puppies in training in the dorms.
> hope this is not off topic.
> Danielle and Thai
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> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 13:31:06 -0500
> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
> To: "'Nicole Torcolini'" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> Nicole is spot on. The last thing you want to do is go out with your dog at
> the expense of your own health. You're the human, your needs come first.
> Dogs don't view their work the same way we do, and they don't need a day off
> like humans do.
>
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicole Torcolini
> via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:36 PM
> To: 'debby phillips'; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
> Dog Users'; 'Lisa'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> When you ask how often a dog needs to work, are you asking how often a dog
> needs to do guide work and/or how often a dog needs exercise? As far as
> exercise, your dog needs exercise almost every day, particularly a young
> lab. If labs do not exercise almost daily, they tend to get pent up energy
> and then start running around the house like crazy. Exercise does not have
> to be in the form of guide work. How often a dog has to do guide work really
> depends. Lexia had to take a few weeks off last year after surgery, and I do
> not recall having to do any major retraining with her. Most dogs, even if
> they do not work for a few weeks, will not forget how to guide, but they
> might need some reminders on the more difficult parts of guide work, such as
> avoiding overhead obstacles. Note that, even if a dog is working, if the dog
> does not encounter particular situations very often, the dog may need some
> reminders.
> I would not worry about giving your dog one day a week off. Dogs do
> not really have a concept of weeks, and they do not view guide work the same
> way that humans view their jobs. I think that most of us who have guide dogs
> do not work seven days a week, so our dogs will not always be going out with
> us seven days a week. Yes, we go places on weekends, but you don't have to
> let your dog have a weekend day off. You will be able to tell if your dog
> needs a day off, which probably will not happen very often at this point.
> Labs, particularly young ones, usually do not tire easily, and, if they do,
> it is gone by the next morning.
>
> Nicole
>
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of debby phillips
> via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 1:41 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> Hey Lisa, great question. Every dog is different of course, so it may
> depend on your individual dog, and certainly if you have an injury and you
> are in pain walking or need time for an ankle, knee or leg to heal, you
> should do that. I try to do something every day, even if it's not walking a
> huge distance. But I do give my dog one total day off a week if I can. I
> need a day off from routine, so I figure my dog might, too. In the winter
> my dogs have probably gotten less work, especially since I live on the east
> side of Washington state where there's snow and ice. I didn't grow up with
> snow and ice, mostly rain and cold, and I must say that the older I get the
> more anxious ice, especially makes me. And yes, I know, I can get things to
> put on my shoes but that doesn't make me any less anxious.
>
> I get depressed if I'm indoors too much, so even when I don't feel like
> getting out there in the cold bluster of winter I make myself do it because
> it does make me feel better. Something about endorphins I think. (Grin).
> Sorry for the ramble in
> trying to answer your question. Peace, Debby and Neena
>
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> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 18:48:43 -0500
> From: Danielle Burton <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> Dogs may not view work the same way as we do but I have noticed that Willa does get cranky and difficult when she gets cranky and tired after a very unsually long day. And to be honest although she may not need the day off I do. Lol. I'm in college so she gets worked 2 to 3 times a day 5 days a week. If not more. So I need a day off myself and I know she has to because she is more refreed after a day or 2 of rest.
>
> Danielle and Willa
>
>
>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone!
>>
>> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
>>
>> How often does a guide dog have to work?
>>
>> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry, depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as often as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with play time and paying attention to it of course.
>> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and work and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
>> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the dog is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
>> Just curious.
>>
>> best
>> Lisa
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:22:15 -0800
> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "'Danielle Burton'" <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing
> List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>, "'Lisa'" <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> Danielle, that is perfectly fine; this is one of those things for which
> there is there is not just one right answer. College campuses can definitely
> be stressful for humans and service dogs alike independent of each other,
> and then add to that the fact that our dogs can usually tell when we are
> stressed, and they get stressed...
>
> Nicole
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Burton
> via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 3:49 PM
> To: Lisa; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>
> Dogs may not view work the same way as we do but I have noticed that Willa
> does get cranky and difficult when she gets cranky and tired after a very
> unsually long day. And to be honest although she may not need the day off I
> do. Lol. I'm in college so she gets worked 2 to 3 times a day 5 days a week.
> If not more. So I need a day off myself and I know she has to because she is
> more refreed after a day or 2 of rest.
>
> Danielle and Willa
>
>
>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone!
>>
>> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
>>
>> How often does a guide dog have to work?
>>
>> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be
> working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry,
> depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as often
> as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with play
> time and paying attention to it of course.
>> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and work
> and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
>> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the dog
> is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or
> so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
>> Just curious.
>>
>> best
>> Lisa
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 16:22:29 -0800
> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>, nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> I know you all disagree with me, but I still think that if my dog
> has had to work pretty hard for 6 or 7 days in a row, then they
> need a break, some space not to have to work. But everybody has
> to make those decisions for themselves. One thing I do like to
> do if the weather is good, is go walk somewhere where there isn't
> much traffic, or where maybe there's a trail or bike path. I
> will sometimes do that instead of a total day off, especially if
> I'm needing to be out and about because I have cabin fever. The
> dogs think it's fun, and they can totally relax. There are some
> streets in my neighborhood that are just really quiet, hardly
> any traffic. When we walk there, Neena just stretches out and
> moves. She loves it and so do I. We still have to stop at the
> curbs and all, but other than that, we can just go. We just walk
> until we get tired. (Usually it's me that's ready to turn around
> and come home). Lol. Peace, Debby and Neena
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 19:24:14 -0500
> From: Danielle Burton <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>
> To: Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> Cc: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> Yes, I find that that is in most cases true Nicole. I thinthe dogs sense when we are tired and it effects them.
>
> Danielle and Willa
>
>
>> On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>>
>> Danielle, that is perfectly fine; this is one of those things for which
>> there is there is not just one right answer. College campuses can definitely
>> be stressful for humans and service dogs alike independent of each other,
>> and then add to that the fact that our dogs can usually tell when we are
>> stressed, and they get stressed...
>>
>> Nicole
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Burton
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 3:49 PM
>> To: Lisa; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>>
>> Dogs may not view work the same way as we do but I have noticed that Willa
>> does get cranky and difficult when she gets cranky and tired after a very
>> unsually long day. And to be honest although she may not need the day off I
>> do. Lol. I'm in college so she gets worked 2 to 3 times a day 5 days a week.
>> If not more. So I need a day off myself and I know she has to because she is
>> more refreed after a day or 2 of rest.
>>
>> Danielle and Willa
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey everyone!
>>>
>>> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
>>>
>>> How often does a guide dog have to work?
>>>
>>> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be
>> working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry,
>> depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as often
>> as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with play
>> time and paying attention to it of course.
>>> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and work
>> and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
>>> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the dog
>> is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or
>> so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
>>> Just curious.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Lisa
>>>
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> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 21:59:14 -0500
> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
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> At Guiding Eyes, the instructors advised us to give our dogs one day
> off per week. Ha!
> This is my rule: If I have to work, so does my dog. If I go anywhere,
> even if it's just to hang out or grab a drink, the Golden Guy is
> tagging along. If there is a day that I am not doing anything and just
> feel like resting, then of course, he's out for the day as I am. But
> within the last several months, those days have been rare, and he
> deals with it just fine. What I like about him is that he is ready for
> action. If I'm ready to go anywhere, he's game. If he needs to just
> sleep for 4 hours at a time while I'm working, he's fine.
> Also, I don't technically work my dog everywhere I go, especially here
> on campus, he is on-leash and out-of-harness most of the time when we
> travel. I can tell by his actions that traveling this way is more
> freeing, so that might be why he never seems tired or fussy. But he's
> a dog that could probably work all day seven days a week though, and
> never get tired of it; he is that willing and invested. Of course, he
> doesn't hesitate to crash when we end up at any given location for any
> length of time.
> Leash-guiding allows him to fluidly switch between being on duty and
> taking a leisure walk. He decides he's on duty whenever there's
> obstruction or elevation changes, but typically, I know this place
> well enough that I pick up on it without his help. He will also do
> traffic checks on-leash, which has only happened thrice, but is still
> valuable. Otherwise, the walk is just leisure and he's happy to be
> out, speeding along on long leash, and occasionally sniffing things.
>
>> On 11/9/14, Danielle Burton via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Yes, I find that that is in most cases true Nicole. I thinthe dogs sense
>> when we are tired and it effects them.
>>
>> Danielle and Willa
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Danielle, that is perfectly fine; this is one of those things for which
>>> there is there is not just one right answer. College campuses can
>>> definitely
>>> be stressful for humans and service dogs alike independent of each other,
>>> and then add to that the fact that our dogs can usually tell when we are
>>> stressed, and they get stressed...
>>>
>>> Nicole
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle
>>> Burton
>>> via nagdu
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 3:49 PM
>>> To: Lisa; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>>>
>>> Dogs may not view work the same way as we do but I have noticed that
>>> Willa
>>> does get cranky and difficult when she gets cranky and tired after a very
>>> unsually long day. And to be honest although she may not need the day off
>>> I
>>> do. Lol. I'm in college so she gets worked 2 to 3 times a day 5 days a
>>> week.
>>> If not more. So I need a day off myself and I know she has to because she
>>> is
>>> more refreed after a day or 2 of rest.
>>>
>>> Danielle and Willa
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey everyone!
>>>>
>>>> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
>>>>
>>>> How often does a guide dog have to work?
>>>>
>>>> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be
>>> working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry,
>>> depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as
>>> often
>>> as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with play
>>> time and paying attention to it of course.
>>>> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and
>>>> work
>>> and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
>>>> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the
>>>> dog
>>> is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or
>>> so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
>>>> Just curious.
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>> Lisa
>>>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 20:08:45 -0700
> From: "Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] stitches removal day
> Message-ID: <2A6E4BF7E7534BE9ACC86252CF73B896 at bibi>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi, all,
> Sub says it all.
> Tomorrow on November 10, 2014, I take Odie back to the vet to have everything taken out of his right leg; stitches and staples.
> The area is definitely healing and I am able to tell as he no longer wants to be confined indoors and is ready to get back to working.
> We are both happy about this and are ready to get it done.
> His right eye unfortunately will need a re-check as there's still some redness in it.
> I'm not sure if it is cherry-eye or what, but I'll just have to hope and prayer on it.
> Blessings to all,
> Bibi and MAR son Odie
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 19:21:45 -0800
> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "'Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire'" <orleans24 at comcast.net>,
> "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] stitches removal day
> Message-ID: <38F92588F2CF49CCB2523934BF482CD0 at NicoleDell>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Bibi,
>
> Be carful about pushing things too fast. Just because Odie thinks
> that he is ready to go back to work does not mean that he actually is. Did
> you receive the last email that I sent you off list with information?
>
> Nicole
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Criminal Justice
> Major Extraordinaire via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 7:09 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] stitches removal day
>
> Hi, all,
> Sub says it all.
> Tomorrow on November 10, 2014, I take Odie back to the vet to have
> everything taken out of his right leg; stitches and staples.
> The area is definitely healing and I am able to tell as he no longer wants
> to be confined indoors and is ready to get back to working.
> We are both happy about this and are ready to get it done.
> His right eye unfortunately will need a re-check as there's still some
> redness in it.
> I'm not sure if it is cherry-eye or what, but I'll just have to hope and
> prayer on it.
> Blessings to all,
> Bibi and MAR son Odie
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 22:50:10 -0500
> From: "Larry D Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
> Message-ID: <5042C58CEE7D4348AB541D042F951673 at yourec0540d030>
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>
> The only issue i have with that is that if your health is bad enough then
> you might reconsider having and using a dog. Even the regular routine can be
> stressful on some. This of course would be up to the handler and not others.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Star Gazer via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Nicole Torcolini'" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>; "'NAGDU Mailing
> List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>;
> "'debby phillips'" <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>; "'Lisa'"
> <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>
>
>> Nicole is spot on. The last thing you want to do is go out with your dog
>> at
>> the expense of your own health. You're the human, your needs come first.
>> Dogs don't view their work the same way we do, and they don't need a day
>> off
>> like humans do.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicole
>> Torcolini
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:36 PM
>> To: 'debby phillips'; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>> Guide
>> Dog Users'; 'Lisa'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>>
>> When you ask how often a dog needs to work, are you asking how often a dog
>> needs to do guide work and/or how often a dog needs exercise? As far as
>> exercise, your dog needs exercise almost every day, particularly a young
>> lab. If labs do not exercise almost daily, they tend to get pent up energy
>> and then start running around the house like crazy. Exercise does not have
>> to be in the form of guide work. How often a dog has to do guide work
>> really
>> depends. Lexia had to take a few weeks off last year after surgery, and I
>> do
>> not recall having to do any major retraining with her. Most dogs, even if
>> they do not work for a few weeks, will not forget how to guide, but they
>> might need some reminders on the more difficult parts of guide work, such
>> as
>> avoiding overhead obstacles. Note that, even if a dog is working, if the
>> dog
>> does not encounter particular situations very often, the dog may need some
>> reminders.
>> I would not worry about giving your dog one day a week off. Dogs do
>> not really have a concept of weeks, and they do not view guide work the
>> same
>> way that humans view their jobs. I think that most of us who have guide
>> dogs
>> do not work seven days a week, so our dogs will not always be going out
>> with
>> us seven days a week. Yes, we go places on weekends, but you don't have to
>> let your dog have a weekend day off. You will be able to tell if your dog
>> needs a day off, which probably will not happen very often at this point.
>> Labs, particularly young ones, usually do not tire easily, and, if they
>> do,
>> it is gone by the next morning.
>>
>> Nicole
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of debby phillips
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 1:41 PM
>> To: Lisa; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users;
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>>
>> Hey Lisa, great question. Every dog is different of course, so it may
>> depend on your individual dog, and certainly if you have an injury and you
>> are in pain walking or need time for an ankle, knee or leg to heal, you
>> should do that. I try to do something every day, even if it's not walking
>> a
>> huge distance. But I do give my dog one total day off a week if I can. I
>> need a day off from routine, so I figure my dog might, too. In the winter
>> my dogs have probably gotten less work, especially since I live on the
>> east
>> side of Washington state where there's snow and ice. I didn't grow up
>> with
>> snow and ice, mostly rain and cold, and I must say that the older I get
>> the
>> more anxious ice, especially makes me. And yes, I know, I can get things
>> to
>> put on my shoes but that doesn't make me any less anxious.
>>
>> I get depressed if I'm indoors too much, so even when I don't feel like
>> getting out there in the cold bluster of winter I make myself do it
>> because
>> it does make me feel better. Something about endorphins I think. (Grin).
>> Sorry for the ramble in
>> trying to answer your question. Peace, Debby and Neena
>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 22:53:55 -0500
> From: "Larry D Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "Danielle Burton" <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing
> List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>
> I have never believed that dogs need time off or anything like that. Some
> days, I don't work Holly at all and others she may pretty much work the
> weekend. Given the way things balance out, she has plenty of time to rest
> and play as well as plenty of working time. Also, my puppy and kids and wife
> keep her quite busy and up to a lot of no good if she wants to get to it!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Danielle Burton via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Lisa" <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>
>
>> Dogs may not view work the same way as we do but I have noticed that Willa
>> does get cranky and difficult when she gets cranky and tired after a very
>> unsually long day. And to be honest although she may not need the day off
>> I do. Lol. I'm in college so she gets worked 2 to 3 times a day 5 days a
>> week. If not more. So I need a day off myself and I know she has to
>> because she is more refreed after a day or 2 of rest.
>>
>> Danielle and Willa
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey everyone!
>>>
>>> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
>>>
>>> How often does a guide dog have to work?
>>>
>>> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be
>>> working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry,
>>> depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as
>>> often as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog,
>>> with play time and paying attention to it of course.
>>> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and work
>>> and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
>>> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the dog
>>> is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or
>>> so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
>>> Just curious.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Lisa
>>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 23:00:56 -0500
> From: "Larry D Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "Danielle Burton" <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing
> List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
> Message-ID: <BF169BC1A5DA42E3999A7220D8365222 at yourec0540d030>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Its called a negative feedback loop. Stress from handler is picked up by
> dog. That stress if not relieved can become harmful to both dog and handler.
> A break for both is sometimes called for. I think Holly and I work well
> because we both are kind of laid back. Here if Holly needs to burn off
> energy, she has Casper. If I'm busy and can't pay her attention, she goes to
> someone else. And for the most part, we work together with a minium of
> stress. If a situation gets stressful, I try to get us out of it as soon as
> I can and give her time to rest up at home.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Danielle Burton via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> Cc: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>
>
>> Yes, I find that that is in most cases true Nicole. I thinthe dogs sense
>> when we are tired and it effects them.
>>
>> Danielle and Willa
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Danielle, that is perfectly fine; this is one of those things for which
>>> there is there is not just one right answer. College campuses can
>>> definitely
>>> be stressful for humans and service dogs alike independent of each other,
>>> and then add to that the fact that our dogs can usually tell when we are
>>> stressed, and they get stressed...
>>>
>>> Nicole
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle
>>> Burton
>>> via nagdu
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 3:49 PM
>>> To: Lisa; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>>>
>>> Dogs may not view work the same way as we do but I have noticed that
>>> Willa
>>> does get cranky and difficult when she gets cranky and tired after a very
>>> unsually long day. And to be honest although she may not need the day off
>>> I
>>> do. Lol. I'm in college so she gets worked 2 to 3 times a day 5 days a
>>> week.
>>> If not more. So I need a day off myself and I know she has to because she
>>> is
>>> more refreed after a day or 2 of rest.
>>>
>>> Danielle and Willa
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey everyone!
>>>>
>>>> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
>>>>
>>>> How often does a guide dog have to work?
>>>>
>>>> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be
>>> working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry,
>>> depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as
>>> often
>>> as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with play
>>> time and paying attention to it of course.
>>>> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and
>>>> work
>>> and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
>>>> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the
>>>> dog
>>> is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or
>>> so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
>>>> Just curious.
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>> Lisa
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 23:04:45 -0500
> From: "Larry D Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "Raven Tolliver" <ravend729 at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
> Message-ID: <19A086734BA444C7A18A191D6E7F1A06 at yourec0540d030>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Never heard that one. But, at Pilot, our trainer kept telling us to be fair
> to our dogs. For example, take them out whenever possible and don't work
> them into the ground without a break. Also, there is a difference in the
> energy level required for constant walking or just lying around waiting.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raven Tolliver via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Danielle Burton" <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the
> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 9:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>
>
>> At Guiding Eyes, the instructors advised us to give our dogs one day
>> off per week. Ha!
>> This is my rule: If I have to work, so does my dog. If I go anywhere,
>> even if it's just to hang out or grab a drink, the Golden Guy is
>> tagging along. If there is a day that I am not doing anything and just
>> feel like resting, then of course, he's out for the day as I am. But
>> within the last several months, those days have been rare, and he
>> deals with it just fine. What I like about him is that he is ready for
>> action. If I'm ready to go anywhere, he's game. If he needs to just
>> sleep for 4 hours at a time while I'm working, he's fine.
>> Also, I don't technically work my dog everywhere I go, especially here
>> on campus, he is on-leash and out-of-harness most of the time when we
>> travel. I can tell by his actions that traveling this way is more
>> freeing, so that might be why he never seems tired or fussy. But he's
>> a dog that could probably work all day seven days a week though, and
>> never get tired of it; he is that willing and invested. Of course, he
>> doesn't hesitate to crash when we end up at any given location for any
>> length of time.
>> Leash-guiding allows him to fluidly switch between being on duty and
>> taking a leisure walk. He decides he's on duty whenever there's
>> obstruction or elevation changes, but typically, I know this place
>> well enough that I pick up on it without his help. He will also do
>> traffic checks on-leash, which has only happened thrice, but is still
>> valuable. Otherwise, the walk is just leisure and he's happy to be
>> out, speeding along on long leash, and occasionally sniffing things.
>>
>>> On 11/9/14, Danielle Burton via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Yes, I find that that is in most cases true Nicole. I thinthe dogs sense
>>> when we are tired and it effects them.
>>>
>>> Danielle and Willa
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Danielle, that is perfectly fine; this is one of those things for which
>>>> there is there is not just one right answer. College campuses can
>>>> definitely
>>>> be stressful for humans and service dogs alike independent of each
>>>> other,
>>>> and then add to that the fact that our dogs can usually tell when we are
>>>> stressed, and they get stressed...
>>>>
>>>> Nicole
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle
>>>> Burton
>>>> via nagdu
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 3:49 PM
>>>> To: Lisa; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
>>>>
>>>> Dogs may not view work the same way as we do but I have noticed that
>>>> Willa
>>>> does get cranky and difficult when she gets cranky and tired after a
>>>> very
>>>> unsually long day. And to be honest although she may not need the day
>>>> off
>>>> I
>>>> do. Lol. I'm in college so she gets worked 2 to 3 times a day 5 days a
>>>> week.
>>>> If not more. So I need a day off myself and I know she has to because
>>>> she
>>>> is
>>>> more refreed after a day or 2 of rest.
>>>>
>>>> Danielle and Willa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
>>>>>
>>>>> How often does a guide dog have to work?
>>>>>
>>>>> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be
>>>> working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry,
>>>> depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as
>>>> often
>>>> as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with
>>>> play
>>>> time and paying attention to it of course.
>>>>> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and
>>>>> work
>>>> and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
>>>>> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the
>>>>> dog
>>>> is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days
>>>> or
>>>> so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>
>>>>> best
>>>>> Lisa
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:43:01 -0800
> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,
> danielleburton94 at gmail.com, nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> Does Guiding Eyes teach leash guiding? TSE doesn't, but if I'm
> out in the backyard I use leash guiding.
>
> Today we had a huge rain storm. I wanted to walk anyway, so I
> walked part way. Then Craig picked us up. We were within two
> blocks. But it was pouring. Anyway, it did feel good to walk,
> even if it was in the rain. But rain really changes the noises
> traffic makes. And there were leaves and puddles, huge puddles
> everywhere. Peace, Debby
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:43:02 -0800
> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire <orleans24 at comcast.net>,
> "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>, nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] stitches removal day
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> Hey, so glad that Odie is healing. Thanks for keeping us
> updated. Blessings, Debby
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 21:55:18 -0700
> From: Mardi Hadfield <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I'm getting my first guide!
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> How wonderful for you ,Fatmir! It sounds like this dog was meant to be
> yours.I am so excited for you!Please do right a journal of your training.
> It will help you and Gibson work out things that need more work on.There
> will always be things to work out in the beginning,as you will be getting
> to know each other,but you already have a good start on that.Some times I
> find it quite amazing how things work out! Good luck with your training.
> Mardi and Shaman and Neechee.
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> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 06:43:10 -0500
> From: Danielle Burton <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>
> To: Lisa <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> No, Guiding Eyes doesn't teach leash guiding. I am kind of curious on how you teach dog to do that od they pick up on it?
>
> Danielle and Willa
>
>
>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone!
>>
>> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
>>
>> How often does a guide dog have to work?
>>
>> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry, depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as often as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with play time and paying attention to it of course.
>> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and work and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
>> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the dog is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
>> Just curious.
>>
>> best
>> Lisa
>>
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