[nagdu] guide dogs and Gateway Arch in Saint Luis, MO?

[Craig Heaps]

I have never been to the Gateway Arch, nor do I know much about it.  The 
original post prompted me to look it up online and watch a couple YouTube 
videos of the ride to the top.

The little tram cars look tight, but you could get a dog in there, 
expecially if you have fewer than the five people for whom there are seats. 
I timed the ride on the  videos.  It takes six minutes from door closing to 
door opening.You exit onto a stairway for a short walk to the observation 
deck.

The bigger problem for me would be .. not the dog .. but my claustraphobia.

Craig and Chase

craig.heaps at comcast.net



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deanna Lewis via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire" <orleans24 at comcast.net>; 
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dogs and Gateway Arch in Saint Luis, MO?


> Hi Bibi,
> This sounds really cool from your description. I checked out the official 
> Gateway Arch website (www.gatewayarch.com) and below is what I found under 
> accessibility. Hope it helps.
>
> The Journey to the Top of the Gateway Arch is not fully accessible for 
> guests with mobility impairments.  No wheelchairs are permitted at the Top 
> of the Gateway Arch.  Visit the National Park Service website to learn 
> more.
>
> For those with mobility impairments, both theaters are accessible and have 
> designated areas set aside for viewing from wheelchairs. Both theaters 
> have unique rear window captioning systems, movie scripts, and audio 
> enhancement for visitors with hearing impairments.  Audio description 
> devices may also be available for the sight impaired.  Audio enhancement 
> amplifies movie soundtracks and spoken words and transmits them directly 
> to persons using an FM receiver.
>
> Please feel free to contact customer service at 877-982-1410 or email 
> info at coreofdiscovery.com.
>
> Deanna and Pascal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Criminal 
> Justice Major Extraordinaire via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:29 AM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] guide dogs and Gateway Arch in Saint Luis, MO?
>
> Hi, all,
> I was curious if anyone has traveled with their guide dog to the Gateway 
> Arch in Saint Luis, MO?
> Althou Odie is a MAR dog now, I had a dream a couple days ago of traveling 
> to Missouri into Saint Louis to visit the Gateway Arch with him.
> Inside the Gateway Arch, they don't have normal elevators.
> Instead, the elevators are in a shape of an egg with five to six stools 
> inside.
> When the eggs are rising up to the top of the arch, they make light 
> clicking noises and slightly turn sideways.
> There is no lighting inside the egg shaped like elevator from what I can 
> remember when  I toured the Arch almost twenty-four years ago.
> Once the egg gets to the top, the doors open and you can walk over to a 
> large bay glass window and look out to see that everything down below is 
> toy-like.
> I mentioned to my father yesterday about how I wanted to do a tenth 
> anniversary celebration with Odie by visiting the arch, but my father 
> stated how the government wouldn't allow Odie to gain access in there.
> I even asked, "They wouldn't allow a service dog in there, despite the 
> ADA?"
> My father's response was that since the Gateway Arch is under the 
> government, the government can do what ever they want to or please.
> He also felt that it would be a frightening experience to a service dog.
> This is also a question I will be posting to the Travel and Tourism list 
> as well as Blind Rollers, but be changing the subject from guide dogs to 
> wheelchairs.
> I probably should look up the Gateway Arch and do some research on my own 
> to see what I find out.
> I wanted to put this out on the list for discussion and thoughts.
> If my idea isn't a good one, then I won't take that chance.
> Odie and I will have to figure out something else for our tenth 
> anniversary.
> Bibi and MAR son Odie
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