[nagdu] relieving surfaces was Introduction

[Julie J.]

Raven,

Yes and no.  Cement is a component of concrete.  Most people use the terms 
interchangeably to mean the same thing.   Concrete is a mixture of cement, 
water and fillers, usually crushed rock/gravel.  Cement alone is more 
expensive, but smoother when dry because there is no gravel filler mixed in. 
So cement might be used for say a swimming pool or roller skate rink, while 
concrete is used for sidewalks and most other applications.

A dog isn't going to recognize the difference between cement and concrete. 
Most people don't.  I never knew until doing a home project and looking like 
a dork at the home improvement store. *smile*

I don't teach my dogs to relieve on concrete.  I've had very little problems 
with relieving in harness on route.  I don't know if that's related or 
coincidence.  I live in an area with abundant grass/gravel/woodchip/dirt 
readily available.  So as long as I continue to live in this sort of area, I 
will continue to not allow concrete relieving at any time.

Julie
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Raven Tolliver via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 11:02 AM
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Cc: Raven Tolliver
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introduction

Cement and concrete are 2 different things, aren't they? Just asking,
'cause I think those are 2 different surfaces.
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On 11/30/15, Debby Phillips via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Even in class, Nova would not poop on cement.  She would pee,
> reluctantly.  Finally I just started taking her to some grass.
> My instructor said that there are some dogs who just will not go
> on concrete, unless they are totally desperate.  We tried walking
> her and walking her, I even resorted to singing.  Lol.  I'd never
> seen a dog as stubborn about going on concrete, or not going,
> rather.  She will go in dirt, which is good, because sometimes
> when away from home, that's all I've been able to find.    Debby
> and Nova who HATES pooping on concrete

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