[nagdu] Guide Dog School

[Nimer Jaber]

Hi all,

Thanks for your responses about the various guide schools.  I am in
agreement with Marion on his points...I don't like a school that will
retain ownership for any amount of time.  I don't like a school that
mandates weight requirements, and I certainly don't like a school that
attempts to force grads to send medical info.  This is just like going
out and buying a car and having the dealership tell you that they wish
to see a log of all the places you go with that car.  This isn't
something I'm willing to accept.  As it stands, it seems that most
schools retain ownership.  There seems to be only a couple of schools
that purport to hand over ownership to their grads.  It's a shame that
things are going down the way they are with TSE as I support their model
the most and would love to pay for my dog.  Looks like I'll be checking
out GDF and GDA as they seem to be the ones that hand ownership.  I have
heard and seen too many cases of pretty bad training with Pilot...and I
don't like where they get their dogs from, either.  Southeastern seems
to have a forced retirement age that is in-congruent with providing
ownership.  If anyone has anything additional to add about this, please
let me know.  I wish that more schools would provide ownership and would
stop treating blind people with such disrespect, but I suppose I can
continue dreaming...

Thanks all for all of your advice on this topic.

On 09-Mar-15 10:29, milissa61 wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> All my dogs have been from Guiding Eyes. They are a great school and the
> director of training is phenomenal. When you get a dog from Guiding Eyes,
> GEB owns the dog for the first two years. After that, you are able to apply
> for ownership provided your dog is in good health. GEB is very strict about
> making sure their dogs are not over weight. I like GEB's ownership policy
> because if anything goes wrong, (like the dog is being abused) GEB can step
> in and take the dog. They are not in the practice of taking people's dogs
> away. If something is wrong, they really go out of their way to help you
> straighten things out. But, I am glad it's an option. I've seen way to many
> dogs from schools that give ownership right away not be able to do anything
> if a dog is not being treated well or if the dog is overweight. Let me know
> if you have any other questions about GEB.
> 
> Just my two cents.
> 
> Milissa
> 
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog School
> 
> You might want to look at Guiding EYES.  They produce some great dogs, the
> training is very good, I'm told, (the Director of training was my first
> instructor at Seeing Eye).  I'm not sure what their ownership policy is.  I
> almost applied there before I got Neena, but at the last moment, I just
> couldn't make the change.  I've been getting dogs from TSE since 1981.  I
> have concerns too about some of the direction then are going, and concerns
> about their ability to do good follow up.  But for me, I just couldn't make
> the change.  Neena is a great dog, and I love how she works.  We will see,
> in the future, if I need follow-up 
> if it will happen or not.  Good luck with your search.    Peace,    
> Debby with Neena
> 
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