[nagdu] Guide Dog School

[Marion Gwizdala]

Nimer,

	This is a good summary! I am happy to see you doing your homework!

Marion



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To: milissa61; 'Debby Phillips'; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National
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Hi all,

Thanks for your responses about the various guide schools.  I am in
agreement with Marion on his points...I don't like a school that will retain
ownership for any amount of time.  I don't like a school that mandates
weight requirements, and I certainly don't like a school that attempts to
force grads to send medical info.  This is just like going out and buying a
car and having the dealership tell you that they wish to see a log of all
the places you go with that car.  This isn't something I'm willing to
accept.  As it stands, it seems that most schools retain ownership.  There
seems to be only a couple of schools that purport to hand over ownership to
their grads.  It's a shame that things are going down the way they are with
TSE as I support their model the most and would love to pay for my dog.
Looks like I'll be checking out GDF and GDA as they seem to be the ones that
hand ownership.  I have heard and seen too many cases of pretty bad training
with Pilot...and I don't like where they get their dogs from, either.
Southeastern seems to have a forced retirement age that is in-congruent with
providing ownership.  If anyone has anything additional to add about this,
please let me know.  I wish that more schools would provide ownership and
would stop treating blind people with such disrespect, but I suppose I can
continue dreaming...

Thanks all for all of your advice on this topic.

On 09-Mar-15 10:29, milissa61 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> All my dogs have been from Guiding Eyes. They are a great school and 
> the director of training is phenomenal. When you get a dog from 
> Guiding Eyes, GEB owns the dog for the first two years. After that, 
> you are able to apply for ownership provided your dog is in good 
> health. GEB is very strict about making sure their dogs are not over 
> weight. I like GEB's ownership policy because if anything goes wrong, 
> (like the dog is being abused) GEB can step in and take the dog. They 
> are not in the practice of taking people's dogs away. If something is 
> wrong, they really go out of their way to help you straighten things 
> out. But, I am glad it's an option. I've seen way to many dogs from 
> schools that give ownership right away not be able to do anything if a 
> dog is not being treated well or if the dog is overweight. Let me know if
you have any other questions about GEB.
> 
> Just my two cents.
> 
> Milissa
> 
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> Phillips via nagdu
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> To: nimerjaber1 at gmail.com; semisweetdebby at gmail.com; nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog School
> 
> You might want to look at Guiding EYES.  They produce some great dogs, 
> the training is very good, I'm told, (the Director of training was my 
> first instructor at Seeing Eye).  I'm not sure what their ownership 
> policy is.  I almost applied there before I got Neena, but at the last 
> moment, I just couldn't make the change.  I've been getting dogs from 
> TSE since 1981.  I have concerns too about some of the direction then 
> are going, and concerns about their ability to do good follow up.  But 
> for me, I just couldn't make the change.  Neena is a great dog, and I 
> love how she works.  We will see, in the future, if I need follow-up
> if it will happen or not.  Good luck with your search.    Peace,    
> Debby with Neena
> 
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