[nagdu] Guide Dog School

[Marianne Denning]

I will be visiting Leader Dogs on Friday and will ask what their
current policy on ownership is and report back to everyone.  I believe
it is after one year but I want to make sure I provide the most
current information.

On 3/10/15, Marion Gwizdala via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Nimer,
>
> 	This is a good summary! I am happy to see you doing your homework!
>
> Marion
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber via
> nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:04 PM
> To: milissa61; 'Debby Phillips'; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog School
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for your responses about the various guide schools.  I am in
> agreement with Marion on his points...I don't like a school that will
> retain
> ownership for any amount of time.  I don't like a school that mandates
> weight requirements, and I certainly don't like a school that attempts to
> force grads to send medical info.  This is just like going out and buying a
> car and having the dealership tell you that they wish to see a log of all
> the places you go with that car.  This isn't something I'm willing to
> accept.  As it stands, it seems that most schools retain ownership.  There
> seems to be only a couple of schools that purport to hand over ownership to
> their grads.  It's a shame that things are going down the way they are with
> TSE as I support their model the most and would love to pay for my dog.
> Looks like I'll be checking out GDF and GDA as they seem to be the ones
> that
> hand ownership.  I have heard and seen too many cases of pretty bad
> training
> with Pilot...and I don't like where they get their dogs from, either.
> Southeastern seems to have a forced retirement age that is in-congruent
> with
> providing ownership.  If anyone has anything additional to add about this,
> please let me know.  I wish that more schools would provide ownership and
> would stop treating blind people with such disrespect, but I suppose I can
> continue dreaming...
>
> Thanks all for all of your advice on this topic.
>
> On 09-Mar-15 10:29, milissa61 wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> All my dogs have been from Guiding Eyes. They are a great school and
>> the director of training is phenomenal. When you get a dog from
>> Guiding Eyes, GEB owns the dog for the first two years. After that,
>> you are able to apply for ownership provided your dog is in good
>> health. GEB is very strict about making sure their dogs are not over
>> weight. I like GEB's ownership policy because if anything goes wrong,
>> (like the dog is being abused) GEB can step in and take the dog. They
>> are not in the practice of taking people's dogs away. If something is
>> wrong, they really go out of their way to help you straighten things
>> out. But, I am glad it's an option. I've seen way to many dogs from
>> schools that give ownership right away not be able to do anything if a
>> dog is not being treated well or if the dog is overweight. Let me know if
> you have any other questions about GEB.
>>
>> Just my two cents.
>>
>> Milissa
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Debby
>> Phillips via nagdu
>> Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 11:27 AM
>> To: nimerjaber1 at gmail.com; semisweetdebby at gmail.com; nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dog School
>>
>> You might want to look at Guiding EYES.  They produce some great dogs,
>> the training is very good, I'm told, (the Director of training was my
>> first instructor at Seeing Eye).  I'm not sure what their ownership
>> policy is.  I almost applied there before I got Neena, but at the last
>> moment, I just couldn't make the change.  I've been getting dogs from
>> TSE since 1981.  I have concerns too about some of the direction then
>> are going, and concerns about their ability to do good follow up.  But
>> for me, I just couldn't make the change.  Neena is a great dog, and I
>> love how she works.  We will see, in the future, if I need follow-up
>> if it will happen or not.  Good luck with your search.    Peace,
>> Debby with Neena
>>
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053