[nagdu] it's illegal to use a crate or tiedown?

[Mária Orovčíková]

Lisa,
I absolutely agree with you.
I asked this question because I would like to learn how to pick up after 
my guide dog.
I apreciate any kind of help and description how to do it.
With kind regards
Maria
On 26. 3. 2015 17:38, Lisa via nagdu wrote:
> Leye-Sprintse,
>
> I think you hit the nail on the head with your first sentence:
> ">> Sadly, I think some people have been a bit too prejudiced in this 
> topic. I think that we need to remember that Europe and the Americas 
> have different cultures;"
>
> This is exactly what I was trying to point out yesterday. I never said 
> or thought it's a great thing that European guide dogs are trained to 
> relieve off leash and that we aren't taught to pick up after them. 
> It's just the way it goes over here. That's the only thing I tried to 
> say. Plus, I want to learn how to pick up because I also think it's 
> useful. I'm thankful for some great replies, like Tracy's description 
> of how to pick up and Julie's explanation of how to get your dog used 
> to relieving on-leash.
>
> Yes, here in Germany the dogs are also taught to relieve only on 
> grass. Taylor would do his business in the middle of a meadow if there 
> were no bushes around but he definitely has this favour as your pup 
> had. ;-)
>
> Lisa
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivianna via nagdu" 
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> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:25 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] it's illegal to use a crate or tiedown?
>
>
>> wow!  really!
>> is this really true?
>> so, what do you do if your dog is not trustworthy loose in your 
>> home?  or, if you are in a hotel room?
>> i won’t even get into the reasons that i feel a crate is a fine thing.
>>
>> Vivianna
>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Leye-Shprintse Öberg via nagdu 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> BS'D
>>>
>>> Sadly, I think some people have been a bit too prejudiced in this 
>>> topic. I think that we need to remember that Europe and the Americas 
>>> have different cultures; what you see as normal in your own country 
>>> could be illegal in another one. As an example, it looks like it's 
>>> normal to tiedown and crate your guide dogs in the States and 
>>> Canada; in Sweden, it's illegal and I first heard about it when I 
>>> talked to some American handlers. I'd never do it myself, but I 
>>> don't juge you who do it.
>>>
>>> Now to the question. As Mária, Pam and Lisa, guide dog handlers 
>>> aren't taught to pick up after their dogs in Sweden either; we're 
>>> exepted by the law. Personally, I learned to pick up after my dog 
>>> with help of a Canadian guide dog handler and my twin sister. As I 
>>> see it, I think that we'll be taught how to do it, but since I'm in 
>>> the minority of guide dog handlers who pick up after my dog, I think 
>>> the fight is already lost. We've more important things to change, I 
>>> think. Okay?
>>>
>>> And Mária, our dogs are only taught to relieêe on grass. Oh Lisa, my 
>>> dog was also a bush relieving dog. She always looked for the bushes 
>>> and dragged me there to relieve herself. It took some weeks for her 
>>> to feel confident on plain grass. Now, I'm teaching her to relieve 
>>> on concrete. She's so stuborn, but I'll win this fight also. *LOL*
>>>
>>> LeSholom,
>>> Leye-Shprintse and Hera <3
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