[nagdu] Guides at NFB training centers

Tue Sep 1 18:31:16 UTC 2015

Sighted members can vote in the nfb.  They can't be president and vice president.  Thats my understanding of the situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: his'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Date: 08/31/2015 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guides at NFB training centers

>
>
>	ghghghtabararar	ghghghtabararar I thought that the difference between ACB
> and NFB was that in ACB sighted folks could vote and be full members,
> whereas in NFB they could not. 
> Who knows where I got that idea from. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan via
> nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:28 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guides at NFB training centers
> 
> Of course sighted folks can join NFB. What gave you the idea they couldn't? 
> 
> —
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV — Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194 
> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> Email: buddy at brannan.name
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Aug 31, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> > 
> >	ghghghtabararar	I don't understand it, I thought sighted folks
> > couldn't join NFB? 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> > nagdu
> > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:17 PM
> > To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guides at NFB training centers
> > 
> > Melissa, How do you know people hit your dog intentionally at the
> convention
> > with their canes? I mean this in all sincerity. And yes, there is antidog
> > literature; it is a part of our history. Of course there are anti dog
> folks
> > in the NFB. This is a fair sized organization, and there is no doubt that
> > element exists. The fact that we have NAGDU at all and that it has the
> > strength it does bears out the fact that times they are a-changing. You
> will
> > always have residual situations, and we have to meet them when we can and
> > educate. Some very prestigious people in the NFB won't take me in their
> car
> > when I have my dog with me; this doesn't make the NFB antidog. I am sorry
> > they feel that way, and I would change it if I could, but they claim dogs
> > had mussed their car and they had to get a new car as a result. I would
> > question it, but it is their right not to approve of dogs and all that.
> That
> > is not a reflection of the NFBCbi''s policy.
> > OK, I'm finished and so is my allotment of posts for the day.
> > Cindy Lou Ray
> > cindyray at gmail.com
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of melissa R green
> > via nagdu
> > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:11 PM
> > To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: melissa R green <graduate56 at juno.com>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guides at NFB training centers
> > 
> > I know some people may not
> > want to hear this.  However,
> > there are people that are
> > antidog in the Nfb.  I have
> > experienced this recently at
> > convention.  When my girl was
> > intentionally hit with canes.
> > And of course it will trickle
> > down to the centers.  Many of
> > our past leaders were not dog
> > users, and there are some
> > antidog things written in the
> > literature.  But this is why
> > we have Nagdu, right?  
> > 
> > Warmly,
> > Melissa R. Green and Pj
> > It is 'where we are' that
> > should make all the
> > difference, whether we believe
> > we belong there or not. 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu
> > [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.o
> > rg] On Behalf Of Debby
> > Phillips via nagdu
> > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015
> > 3:17 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the
> > National Association of Guide
> > Dog Users; nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Debby Phillips;
> > dandrews at visi.com
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guides at
> > NFB training centers
> > 
> > David, I actually think this
> > is a good idea.  I would
> > think,
> > however that people would need
> > to have some training with
> > their
> > dogs first before coming to
> > the Center.  But a Center
> > could do
> > travel training with dogs,
> > philosophy, Braille, tech
> > training,
> > everything.  Plus dog stuff,
> > like taking pride in your dog
> > and
> > your skills that you have
> > worked for.  It would be a
> > little
> > different than the other
> > Centers, but it could
> > definitely be
> > done.  I don't see why dog
> > users can't walk with our dogs
> > with
> > just as much pride and freedom
> > as people do with canes.
> > Debby
> > and Nova
> > 
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Melissa R. Green and Pj
when it comes down to it, that's what life is all about: showing up for the
people you love, again and again, until you can't show up anymore.  Sent from  my Braille Notetaker.  