[nagdu] Washington DC metro area puppies (add Rockville ADA)

Tue Sep 8 16:48:48 UTC 2015

Does Pennsylvania grant access rights to dogs? In fact, would the right of access, as with a working service dog, not be the handler's right? 

That aside, I'd really like some clarification on access for dogs in training in Pennsylvania. I've not had any trouble with Hilda. In fact, everyone's been super nice the times I've taken her out. But as I recall reading, and I forget where I saw it now, the law stipulates that the trainer must be working with an accredited or established or something like that'd program. I reckon I should find this out exactly. I suspect that in practice, it wouldn't matter that I'm an owner trainer...who knows the difference? But by the letter of the law, I guess it's possible I wouldn't qualify. 

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> On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> It depends on state legislation. Some states, Pennsylvania for
> instance, grant access rights to service dogs in training. Look into
> MD's service dog laws.
> -- 
> Raven
> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
> www.1am-editing.com
> 
> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
> have or what you do.
> 
> Naturally-reared guide dogs
> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
> 
>> 
>>> Raven, the context is, Montgomery County, MD has a Hero Dog puppy
>>> raising offer to volunteer, but it involves going north of Olney weekly,
>>> where MetroAccess does not go. I could take a cab there and back, if my
>>> wife is unavailable to drive me. Some taxi drivers don't like pups in
>>> cab? Is a future service animal the same as a guide dog, in that
>>> respect?
>>> 
>>> Thanks to anyone who knows,
>>> --
>>>  Tom Hunter
>>>  tomhunter at operamail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015, at 01:26 AM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu wrote:
>>>> Sorry about that previous message. That was a mistake.
>>>> 
>>>> Tom, your question doesn't provide us with context. How is that
>>>> transportation route related to obtaining a puppy to raise to become a
>>>> service dog? Even if you didn't have access to public transportation,
>>>> it would still be a possibility, provided you met the particular
>>>> program's requirements.
>>>> --
>>>> Raven
>>>> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
>>>> www.1am-editing.com
>>>> 
>>>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
>>>> have or what you do.
>>>> 
>>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/8/15, Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/7/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Is that a place where service dogs are produced? I am guessing you
>>>> would
>>>>>> have to contact them. Hope someone will be more helpful to you than
>>>> that.
>>>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tom Hunter
>>>> via
>>>>>> nagdu
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 5:09 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Tom Hunter <tomhunter at operamail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington DC metro area puppies (add Rockville
>>>> ADA)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I emailed Tracy back, but to the group I ask another question:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.adainfo.org/ has a branch in Rockville, Maryland, which I
>>>> can
>>>>>> reach on the Red Line Metro. Any tips?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>  Tom Hunter
>>>>>>  tomhunter at operamail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Tom.
>>>>>>> Just out of curiosity, whose program have you asked?  I didn't think
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> were any schools close enough to DC to raise puppies there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I happened to meet a raiser on vacation recently, and she said they
>>>> keep
>>>>>>> puppies while their usual raisers go on vacation and such.  That
>>>> seems
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> excellent way to get one's feet wet with puppy-raising, so to speak.
>>>> I
>>>>>>> might like to do that, someday.
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tom
>>>> Hunter
>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>> nagdu
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 7:33 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Cc: Tom Hunter
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington DC metro area puppies
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, Raven!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I do want to 'babysit' a puppy who is to be a future guide dog.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My wife still drives, so I can see no issue there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was rejected by 2 guide dog schools, but am legally blind.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have asked a school's local puppy program, and hope for the best.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>  Tom Hunter
>>>>>>>  tomhunter at operamail.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015, at 07:30 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>>>> I cannot speak for all guide dog schools, but my understanding is
>>>> that
>>>>>>>> if you raise a puppy fora guide dog school, you must raise one of
>>>>>>>> their puppies from their breeding lines. And even the schools who
>>>>>>>> accept donated dogs only accept donations from breeders they are
>>>>>>>> familiar with. This is because guide dogs are bred for physical
>>>> health
>>>>>>>> and temperament. All breeders do not breed with these factors in
>>>>>>>> consideration, and a pup from other sources does not have a
>>>> medical
>>>>>>>> history or environmental background that pups from guide dog
>>>> schools
>>>>>>>> and familiar breeders do.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Check to see which guide dog schools have puppy-raising regions in
>>>>>>>> your area. Call those schools and ask what the criteria are to
>>>> raise a
>>>>>>>> pup for their program. Some schools require that a person in your
>>>>>>>> household has a driver's license, so that could pose a problem. If
>>>> I
>>>>>>>> didn't live in such an arrangement, I would ask for an exception,
>>>>>>>> explaining I have access to public transportation. Always worth a
>>>>>>>> shot.
>>>>>>>> I hope you find a fitting opportunity. Dogs are a blast!
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Raven
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Raven
>>>>> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
>>>>> www.1am-editing.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
>>>>> have or what you do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>>>> 
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