[NAGDU] Reserved dog on routes

[Tracy Carcione]

Is something different about the route home?  Are you closer to the grass,
for instance?
Are you returning the exact way you went?  If so, can you vary it a bit?
Some dogs get bored, going back the same way they just came.  Sometimes
there's an alternative, and sometimes not.  Also, some dogs get what I
call the going home blues.  They want to keep going, do more work, not go
home, even if it's been a long walk.
For excessive stopping, I say Hup-up in a stern way, if the happy way
hasn't been effective.  I'm still working on the right mix of happy and
stern with Krokus, and it's been almost 3 years.  I hope you have quicker
success with it.
Tracy

> Hi,
>
> He takes more time than needed to figure out what he needs to do on the up
> curb. I give him 3 chances to get it correct before scolding him. Most
> times
> he gets it before then, but the ratio is about 30% scold and 70% success
> without scolding. The high ratio on up curb scolding is partly his age and
> partly a new route that he hasn't completely mastered yet. The grass
> problem
> is a good thing. However, I don't need him to stop every 3 steps to check
> the grass line, which he does during some stretches of the route. Most of
> his hesitation is on the return route though. He is praise based, so
> treats
> on up curbs aren't an issue.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabriel Moloney
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:56 AM
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> Cc: Gabriel Moloney <gmoloney6467 at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Reserved dog on routes
>
> hay there
> this looks like an interesting question, hence my reply to this question,
> when you say that your guide takes their time on the up curb what type of
> time frame are you talking about? a couple of seconds extra?? that has you
> concerned, on regards to grass on the side walk and overhead bushes etc, I
> would praise my guide for not brushing me against them she would be aware
> that they are there, and would walk me around them, as she was trained to
> do.  So I am not concerned in regards to that, finally I am just curious
> is
> your dog food rewarded trained???? or not?? just a thought, if your guide
> was feed rewarded trained and you have no rewards in your pocket, hence
> maybe could be the problem at the up curb.  My current dog and previous
> dogs
> were not food rewarded and all worked well.
> gabriel
>> On 28 Aug 2017, at 01:00, Andy B. via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Alec does pretty well on this 1.6 mile walk to Walgreens. He is right
>> on target going there. However, he is reserved and hesitant with
>> certain parts of the route coming home. For example, he tends to take
>> his time at up curbs and dilly-dally in the street. After
>> experimenting around, it appears that he is overly concerned about me
>> tripping over the up curb while he walks up the up-ramp. I have
>> suggested left and straight without much success. I do have to give
>> him credit because most of the street corners are small and narrow. Is
>> there any way to improve his confidence on these type of street
>> crossings? It also seems that he is overly concerned with me stepping
>> in the grass and walking into extended bushes. Is there a way to let
>> him know that perfection is not the point? He seems to be particular.
>> If any part of my body touches something, falls outside the sidewalk,
>> and can't fit on the up curb, he stops and takes his time figuring out
>> his problem. The only thing I don't like is the extended amount of time
>> it
> takes him to figure it out before getting a forward correction.
>>
>>
>>
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