[NAGDU] Hawaii

[Wayne & Harley]

Hello Michael,
You are correct, Sir.
The Hawaii definition of a Guide Dog does  indeed run counter to the 
ADA, and U.S.D.O.J. regulations. AS the D.O.J. stated in their 2015 
Service Animal FAQ's the disabled have the right to choose to Owner 
Train their Service Animal, get their Service Animal from a recognized 
programme, or hire a private trainer to train their Service Animal. 
Therefore, the Hawaii requirement that a Guide Dog be recognized only if 
it is trained by a licensed trainer is counter to what the D.O.J. 
regulations.  A Guide Dog Owner Trainer, like myself for instance, could 
argue successfully, that since the ADA provides the greater protections 
that Hawaii's legal definition of what a Guide Dog is is not applicable 
since my Service Animal meets the ADA definition of a Service Animal. 
Mainly that he is individually trained in work or task(s) that directly 
mitigate my disability.  Especially, since the two criteria that have to 
be met for him to be a Service Animal have been met.
1. I am disabled
2. He is individually trained in work or task(s) that directly mitigate 
my disability.
No, I have no immediate plans to travel to Hawaii and challenge their 
paternalistic and patronizing definition. I was merely illustrating my 
point.

Your, Mileage May VARY

Wayne And Harley D

k9dad at k9di.org



On 5/30/2017 3:22 PM, Michael Hingson via NAGDU wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here is the link to the web page that describes all requirements,
> http://hdoa.hawaii.gov/ai/aqs/animal-quarantine-information-page/guide-servi
> ce-dogs-entering-hawaii/. I am not seeing any differences between the
> entrance requirements for guide and other service dogs. A guide dog is
> defined as follows:
>
> ""Guide dog" means any dog individually trained by a licensed guide dog
> trainer for guiding a blind person by means of a harness attached to the dog
> and a rigid handle grasped by the person." I wonder if that definition would
> hold up under the ADA. I have seen in some articles where Assistance Dogs
> International has set itself up as the expert and may well have been
> involved in that definition.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
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> Cc: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Hawaii
>
> Our family plans a trip to Hawaii this summer. I was reading through the
> requirements and guide dogs are treated differently than service dogs. I
> would like to communicate directly with someone who has travelled to Hawaii
> recently to make sure I am doing the right things. My email is
> marianne at denningweb.com. Thanks for any assistance.
>
> --
> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
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