[NAGDU] For Tracy, dog food question
Peter Wolf
pwolf1 at wolfskills.com
Mon Aug 5 20:35:50 UTC 2019
Tracy,
We made the decision early on to feed optimally for long term health and long life, having lost dear ones to things like diabetes which we believed a long term feeding issue with commercial foods. We didn’t now back then what we know now. Those were the days of things like “Purina, all you add is love”.
Since then, we follow some very informed people who do a lot of continual research. Like we eat organic, so too do we feed our dogs. W give them fresh raw meat per meal, and then, super high quality kibble.
One food we dropped was natural balance. The ingredients weren’t up to our research standard. Then once, in a pinch, I picked up a roll of natural balance that is packed like a big sausage. Immediately, both dogs went nuts, and unlike anything we have ever witnessed before or since in their lives and training, they acted like crackheads. They suddenly didn’t give a damn about training and manners; they just wanted to have more. We looked again at the label, then threw it out. It took days for the dogs to settle from it. That’s when we switched to species appropriate feeding like what Dr. Becker describes - clean, fresh raw meat, organic. Now in all of the foods, there are concerns about dogs developing taurine deficiency, which can wreak systemic havoc long term. Feeding fresh species appropriate raw food supplies taurine and enzymes in bioavailable form. Hey it can be a little bit of hassle, but long term function and long healthy life is worth it to us.
So here’s a digest, folks. Many, many of the dog foods with cool nature sounding names are actually just factory food, and may often be related to the ones that get recalled periodically. It is marketing. We choose to go with small companies with fresh, real, and as organic as possible ingredients. They have to contain real meat or fish, use oils that are not canola (which is an oil that is suitable for machinery, not dogs or humans), and that do not use animal meal or by-products. But read labels regularly. Things change; a food may not consistently remain it’s same formula or standard. One company, like Castor and Pollux that once was as a wonderful small company, at one point got purchased. This happens a lot. We read labels, then we discontinued using it.
We feel very comfortable then supplementing with kibble. But we stick to at least the quality of a company called Open Farm, which so far has been impeccable. We have also liked Origen and it’s other product, Acana. But again, you have to read labels, or may end up getting canola. It’s just all about staying current on research and ingredients.
Now, we can do everything right, eat special super diets, meditate every day, think pure thoughts, and spend extra time and money on the the finest of life…then get hit by a bus. We make our own type and level of choices. But for dog food (and our own food too), we think it is better for us, not to throw junk down the chute and expect our machinery to still operate optimally. That means we’ll drop over a hundred bucks for a big bag of dog food instead of less. But we sleep great, knowing that we are banking on optimal health in ways that we (can) control.
Bon appetite!
Peter
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> If you are on another app you would have to stop that one and go to this one.
> Then back to the first app you were on.
> Just some thoughts.
> Dar
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> Original message:
>> I came across this app called, "Button by Neatebox". It looks interesting!
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>> Button by Neatebox (iOS, Free)
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>> 18 years working for Guide Dogs for the Blind watching my blind and visually
>> impaired friends struggle to interact with pedestrian crossings prompted me
>> to look for a solution which would make the lives of all disabled people
>> easier in this area.
>
>> Many crossings poles are out of reach or too far from the crossing to be
>> useful so I set up Neatebox and looked for a way in which we could press the
>> button at the crossing using our mobile phones.
>
>> "Button" by Neatebox is the result of this hard work and gives you a
>> hands-free remote crossing control from your phone. It removes the need for
>> you to make physical contact with the crossing pole and leaves you free to
>> focus on a safe and efficient crossing.
>
>> Simply download the free app and input your details and you are ready to go.
>
>> At this time there are limited locations in which the system can be used but
>> we are keen to install more. If you feel that a crossing near you could do
>> with an innovative solution such as this please let us know using the
>> 'request a crossing' feature within the app's settings and we will contact
>> the Local Authority on your behalf to ask for our system to be installed.
>
>> Current Version: 1.02 (February 1, 2018)
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>> Read Button by Neatebox's AppleVis App Directory entry for more information
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>> Visit Button by Neatebox's App Store page
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>> Best,
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>> 3. Button by Neatebox app , helps find button on a street
>> crossing light pole. (Sarah Calhoun)
>> 4. Fwd: FDA Issues New Pet Treats Warning (Amanda Jones)
>> 5. Re: Dog Food Question (Danielle Sykora)
>> 6. Re: New dog (Jordan Gallacher)
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>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 07:42:21 -0700
>> From: Elise Berkley <bravaegf711 at gmail.com>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
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>> Hello, all.
>> I am thinking about changing Becky's food flavor (Natural Balance
>> Chicken and Sweet Potato Dry) just for a flavor change. I have two
>> questions:
>> 1) What brand and flavor food do you feed your guides?
>> 2) Natural Balance has flavors that are chicken flavor, beef flavor,
>> and turkey flavor (no sweet potato or brown rice). What do you think
>> about these straight flavors?
>> Thanks alot!
>> Elise and Becky, Merced, California
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 10:52:44 -0400
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
>> Message-ID: <007101d54878$c7374060$55a5c120$@access.net>
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>> Hi Ellen.
>> If the other flavors don't have sweet potato or rice, what do they have?
>> Some dogs don't react well to wheat or corn, for example.
>>
>> You could get a small 5 or 10-pound bag of a new good, and see how your gal
>> does with it. But, me, I'd stay away from wheat and corn.
>>
>> I'm feeding Taste of the Wild with Venison and Bison. It's grain-free, but
>> has potatoes and some legume, lentils, maybe. My boy is allergic to
>> chicken, so I have to look hard to find chicken-free food.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley
>> via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 10:42 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Elise Berkley
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
>>
>> Hello, all.
>> I am thinking about changing Becky's food flavor (Natural Balance
>> Chicken and Sweet Potato Dry) just for a flavor change. I have two
>> questions:
>> 1) What brand and flavor food do you feed your guides?
>> 2) Natural Balance has flavors that are chicken flavor, beef flavor,
>> and turkey flavor (no sweet potato or brown rice). What do you think
>> about these straight flavors?
>> Thanks alot!
>> Elise and Becky, Merced, California
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 09:59:36 -0500
>> From: "Sarah Calhoun" <sc-tico at att.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Button by Neatebox app , helps find button on a
>> street crossing light pole.
>> Message-ID: <003f01d54879$bcb18190$361484b0$@att.net>
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>> I came across this app called, "Button by Neatebox". It looks interesting!
>>
>>
>>
>> Button by Neatebox (iOS, Free)
>>
>> 18 years working for Guide Dogs for the Blind watching my blind and
>> visually
>> impaired friends struggle to interact with pedestrian crossings prompted me
>> to look for a solution which would make the lives of all disabled people
>> easier in this area.
>>
>> Many crossings poles are out of reach or too far from the crossing to be
>> useful so I set up Neatebox and looked for a way in which we could press
>> the
>> button at the crossing using our mobile phones.
>>
>> "Button" by Neatebox is the result of this hard work and gives you a
>> hands-free remote crossing control from your phone. It removes the need for
>> you to make physical contact with the crossing pole and leaves you free to
>> focus on a safe and efficient crossing.
>>
>> Simply download the free app and input your details and you are ready to
>> go.
>>
>> At this time there are limited locations in which the system can be used
>> but
>> we are keen to install more. If you feel that a crossing near you could do
>> with an innovative solution such as this please let us know using the
>> 'request a crossing' feature within the app's settings and we will contact
>> the Local Authority on your behalf to ask for our system to be installed.
>>
>> Current Version: 1.02 (February 1, 2018)
>>
>> Read Button by Neatebox's AppleVis App Directory entry for more information
>>
>>
>> Visit Button by Neatebox's App Store page
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Sarah Calhoun
>>
>>
>>
>> May you walk gently through the world and know it's beauty all the days of
>> your life.
>>
>> Apache Blessing
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 11:08:11 -0400
>> From: Amanda Jones <amanda.l.jones1985 at gmail.com>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Fwd: FDA Issues New Pet Treats Warning
>> Message-ID: <67810B8B-A022-407C-945C-C9F64765C2FE at gmail.com>
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>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: "Dog Food Advisor" <alerts at dogfoodadvisor.com>
>>> Date: August 1, 2019 at 9:35:29 AM EDT
>>> To: amanda.l.jones1985 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: FDA Issues New Pet Treats Warning
>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 11:23:36 -0400
>> From: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
>> Message-ID:
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>> I am currently feeding my guide and retired guide Farmina Ancestral
>> Grain. I've spent way too many hours of my life researching dog food,
>> and here are the brands I would recommend taking into account
>> ingredient quality/sourcing, reputability/recall history of the
>> company, amount of meat derived protein in the formula, and the
>> possible link between diet related DCM and high legume/potato diets.
>> One of my dog's is allergic to chicken, so I pay attention to that
>> too.
>> *Farmina: includes grain free and grain inclusive options, and
>> chicken-free options
>> *Victor (Performance, Professional, and High-Pro Plus formulas): grain
>> inclusive
>> *Nature's Select High Protein formula: grain inclusive
>> *Nature's Logic: grain inclusive, chicken free options
>> *Sport Dog: one of the only grain free foods that don't include
>> legumes (some dogs just don't do well with grains), chicken-free
>> options
>>
>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie
>>
>> On 8/1/19, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Ellen.
>>> If the other flavors don't have sweet potato or rice, what do they have?
>>> Some dogs don't react well to wheat or corn, for example.
>>>
>>> You could get a small 5 or 10-pound bag of a new good, and see how your
>>> gal
>>> does with it. But, me, I'd stay away from wheat and corn.
>>>
>>> I'm feeding Taste of the Wild with Venison and Bison. It's grain-free,
>>> but
>>> has potatoes and some legume, lentils, maybe. My boy is allergic to
>>> chicken, so I have to look hard to find chicken-free food.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley
>>> via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 10:42 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Elise Berkley
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
>>>
>>> Hello, all.
>>> I am thinking about changing Becky's food flavor (Natural Balance
>>> Chicken and Sweet Potato Dry) just for a flavor change. I have two
>>> questions:
>>> 1) What brand and flavor food do you feed your guides?
>>> 2) Natural Balance has flavors that are chicken flavor, beef flavor,
>>> and turkey flavor (no sweet potato or brown rice). What do you think
>>> about these straight flavors?
>>> Thanks alot!
>>> Elise and Becky, Merced, California
>>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 21:59:15 -0400
>> From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jordangandoliver at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New dog
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>> Oliber is just under 7 months old, and the short form of this story is I
>> had
>> originally picked out a golden pit mix, but that dog managed to escape from
>> its kennel. So, I had to go back to dog search mode which is when I ran
>> across Silver Moon Puppies, and inquired. They had one puppy left from the
>> January litter, and after gathering info, that is how I decided on Oliver.
>> Jordan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 11:31 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New dog
>>
>> Hi Jordan.
>> Besides Madison's question, I'd like to know where you got Oliver. Always
>> curious where owner-trainers get their dogs. There always seems to be an
>> interesting story.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Madison Martin
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:21 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Madison Martin
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New dog
>>
>> Hi Jordan,
>> Glad to hear that Oliver's training is going well! Just out of curiosity,
>> how old is he? Keep us posted, Madison
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Ledet
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: July-29-19 11:49 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New dog
>>
>> Hey Jordan, Congrats.
>>
>> On 7/29/19, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Say hello to Oliver. I have been training him since May 17th, and he
>>> is doing well. He is a male Silber Lab, and the only thing that I
>>> have not completed training is on street crossings. I have introduced
>>> him to such over the past week, and the two quiet streets that I had
>>> him do, he did a perfect job on. In the next few weeks I am going to
>>> be working on the busier street crossings. First thing I did with him
>>> was teach him leash guiding, which that totally saved my butt one night.
>>>
>>> I took him out to relieve before going to bed, and somehow we ended up
>>> all the way down at the next street. Well, how to make it home was
>>> the question since I only had Oliver no cane no cell phone. I looked
>>> at him, and I said, ok buddy, let's put leash guiding to work here.
>>> We made it home no problems. Leash guiding comes in handy at work
>>> when I am carrying things and do not have a hand available for the
>>> harness handle.
>>>
>>> Jordan
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>> NAGDU mailing listhe suggestions. If I may ask one other question:
> Why do we have to be so careful about grains, looking primarily for
> grain-free foods for our babies? Thanks again.
> Elise and
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> Hey! I haven't investigated the ingredients - I was looking at the
> flavors first. I will definitely do that. Becky is not allergic to
> anything, so far. She is doing chicken right now, and previously I had
> her on the lamb and brown rice choice. Thank you all for your
> suggestions.
> Elise and Becky
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 05:22:07 -0400
> From: Alysha Hiller <alysha.jeans at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
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> Hi Danielle,
> I also did a ridiculous amount of research on dog food and am feeding my guide Farmina ancestral grain. I have been having trouble finding a reliable online supplier though. Last time I needed to order more, it had been out of stock on Chewy, Petflow, and Amazon for months, although I did find it at a local pet store. Where do you get this food for your dog?
>
> Thanks,
> Alysha
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 3, 2019, at 4:42 AM, Elise Berkley via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> 1. Dog Food Question (Elise Berkley)
>>> 2. Re: Dog Food Question (Tracy Carcione)
>>> 3. Button by Neatebox app , helps find button on a street
>>> crossing light pole. (Sarah Calhoun)
>>> 4. Fwd: FDA Issues New Pet Treats Warning (Amanda Jones)
>>> 5. Re: Dog Food Question (Danielle Sykora)
>>> 6. Re: New dog (Jordan Gallacher)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 07:42:21 -0700
>>> From: Elise Berkley <bravaegf711 at gmail.com>
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
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>>> Hello, all.
>>> I am thinking about changing Becky's food flavor (Natural Balance
>>> Chicken and Sweet Potato Dry) just for a flavor change. I have two
>>> questions:
>>> 1) What brand and flavor food do you feed your guides?
>>> 2) Natural Balance has flavors that are chicken flavor, beef flavor,
>>> and turkey flavor (no sweet potato or brown rice). What do you think
>>> about these straight flavors?
>>> Thanks alot!
>>> Elise and Becky, Merced, California
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 10:52:44 -0400
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
>>> Message-ID: <007101d54878$c7374060$55a5c120$@access.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Hi Ellen.
>>> If the other flavors don't have sweet potato or rice, what do they have?
>>> Some dogs don't react well to wheat or corn, for example.
>>>
>>> You could get a small 5 or 10-pound bag of a new good, and see how your gal
>>> does with it. But, me, I'd stay away from wheat and corn.
>>>
>>> I'm feeding Taste of the Wild with Venison and Bison. It's grain-free, but
>>> has potatoes and some legume, lentils, maybe. My boy is allergic to
>>> chicken, so I have to look hard to find chicken-free food.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley
>>> via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 10:42 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Elise Berkley
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
>>>
>>> Hello, all.
>>> I am thinking about changing Becky's food flavor (Natural Balance
>>> Chicken and Sweet Potato Dry) just for a flavor change. I have two
>>> questions:
>>> 1) What brand and flavor food do you feed your guides?
>>> 2) Natural Balance has flavors that are chicken flavor, beef flavor,
>>> and turkey flavor (no sweet potato or brown rice). What do you think
>>> about these straight flavors?
>>> Thanks alot!
>>> Elise and Becky, Merced, California
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 09:59:36 -0500
>>> From: "Sarah Calhoun" <sc-tico at att.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Button by Neatebox app , helps find button on a
>>> street crossing light pole.
>>> Message-ID: <003f01d54879$bcb18190$361484b0$@att.net>
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>>>
>>> I came across this app called, "Button by Neatebox". It looks interesting!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Button by Neatebox (iOS, Free)
>>>
>>> 18 years working for Guide Dogs for the Blind watching my blind and
>>> visually
>>> impaired friends struggle to interact with pedestrian crossings prompted me
>>> to look for a solution which would make the lives of all disabled people
>>> easier in this area.
>>>
>>> Many crossings poles are out of reach or too far from the crossing to be
>>> useful so I set up Neatebox and looked for a way in which we could press
>>> the
>>> button at the crossing using our mobile phones.
>>>
>>> "Button" by Neatebox is the result of this hard work and gives you a
>>> hands-free remote crossing control from your phone. It removes the need for
>>> you to make physical contact with the crossing pole and leaves you free to
>>> focus on a safe and efficient crossing.
>>>
>>> Simply download the free app and input your details and you are ready to
>>> go.
>>>
>>> At this time there are limited locations in which the system can be used
>>> but
>>> we are keen to install more. If you feel that a crossing near you could do
>>> with an innovative solution such as this please let us know using the
>>> 'request a crossing' feature within the app's settings and we will contact
>>> the Local Authority on your behalf to ask for our system to be installed.
>>>
>>> Current Version: 1.02 (February 1, 2018)
>>>
>>> Read Button by Neatebox's AppleVis App Directory entry for more information
>>>
>>>
>>> Visit Button by Neatebox's App Store page
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Sarah Calhoun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> May you walk gently through the world and know it's beauty all the days of
>>> your life.
>>>
>>> Apache Blessing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 11:08:11 -0400
>>> From: Amanda Jones <amanda.l.jones1985 at gmail.com>
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Fwd: FDA Issues New Pet Treats Warning
>>> Message-ID: <67810B8B-A022-407C-945C-C9F64765C2FE at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: "Dog Food Advisor" <alerts at dogfoodadvisor.com>
>>>> Date: August 1, 2019 at 9:35:29 AM EDT
>>>> To: amanda.l.jones1985 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: FDA Issues New Pet Treats Warning
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Fellow Dog Lover,
>>>>
>>>> You're getting this alert because you signed up on our website and asked
>>>> to be notified. If you no longer wish to receive these emails, please
>>>> click the "unsubscribe" link at the bottom of this message.
>>>> After posting 2 recalls in 4 weeks, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
>>>> is now warning consumers to avoid buying or feeding ALL pig ears pet
>>>> treats.
>>>>
>>>> The outbreak of human Salmonella caused by exposure to the contaminated
>>>> treats has now spread to 33 states.
>>>>
>>>> To learn which states are included in the outbreak, please visit the
>>>> following link:
>>>> FDA: Do Not Buy or Feed ANY Pig Ears Pet Treats
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Updated: Best Dry Dog Foods
>>>>
>>>> The Dog Food Advisor has updated its Best Dry Dog Foods page. The list
>>>> includes BOTH grain-free and grain-inclusive brands.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check out our 20 Best Dry Dog Foods for August 2019
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please be sure to share the news of this alert with other pet owners.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Sagman, Editor
>>>> The Dog Food Advisor
>>>> Saving Good Dogs from Bad Dog Food
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 11:23:36 -0400
>>> From: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAAdv8fonbSAVW9YK5a6sOn9rsCEruQB40rLpSfwEf6edi7MxMQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>> I am currently feeding my guide and retired guide Farmina Ancestral
>>> Grain. I've spent way too many hours of my life researching dog food,
>>> and here are the brands I would recommend taking into account
>>> ingredient quality/sourcing, reputability/recall history of the
>>> company, amount of meat derived protein in the formula, and the
>>> possible link between diet related DCM and high legume/potato diets.
>>> One of my dog's is allergic to chicken, so I pay attention to that
>>> too.
>>> *Farmina: includes grain free and grain inclusive options, and
>>> chicken-free options
>>> *Victor (Performance, Professional, and High-Pro Plus formulas): grain
>>> inclusive
>>> *Nature's Select High Protein formula: grain inclusive
>>> *Nature's Logic: grain inclusive, chicken free options
>>> *Sport Dog: one of the only grain free foods that don't include
>>> legumes (some dogs just don't do well with grains), chicken-free
>>> options
>>>
>>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie
>>>
>>>> On 8/1/19, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Ellen.
>>>> If the other flavors don't have sweet potato or rice, what do they have?
>>>> Some dogs don't react well to wheat or corn, for example.
>>>>
>>>> You could get a small 5 or 10-pound bag of a new good, and see how your
>>>> gal
>>>> does with it. But, me, I'd stay away from wheat and corn.
>>>>
>>>> I'm feeding Taste of the Wild with Venison and Bison. It's grain-free,
>>>> but
>>>> has potatoes and some legume, lentils, maybe. My boy is allergic to
>>>> chicken, so I have to look hard to find chicken-free food.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley
>>>> via
>>>> NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 10:42 AM
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Elise Berkley
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Dog Food Question
>>>>
>>>> Hello, all.
>>>> I am thinking about changing Becky's food flavor (Natural Balance
>>>> Chicken and Sweet Potato Dry) just for a flavor change. I have two
>>>> questions:
>>>> 1) What brand and flavor food do you feed your guides?
>>>> 2) Natural Balance has flavors that are chicken flavor, beef flavor,
>>>> and turkey flavor (no sweet potato or brown rice). What do you think
>>>> about these straight flavors?
>>>> Thanks alot!
>>>> Elise and Becky, Merced, California
>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 21:59:15 -0400
>>> From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jordangandoliver at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New dog
>>> Message-ID: <000901d548d5$e3bd8520$ab388f60$@gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Oliber is just under 7 months old, and the short form of this story is I
>>> had
>>> originally picked out a golden pit mix, but that dog managed to escape from
>>> its kennel. So, I had to go back to dog search mode which is when I ran
>>> across Silver Moon Puppies, and inquired. They had one puppy left from the
>>> January litter, and after gathering info, that is how I decided on Oliver.
>>> Jordan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 11:31 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New dog
>>>
>>> Hi Jordan.
>>> Besides Madison's question, I'd like to know where you got Oliver. Always
>>> curious where owner-trainers get their dogs. There always seems to be an
>>> interesting story.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Madison Martin
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:21 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: Madison Martin
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New dog
>>>
>>> Hi Jordan,
>>> Glad to hear that Oliver's training is going well! Just out of curiosity,
>>> how old is he? Keep us posted, Madison
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Ledet
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: July-29-19 11:49 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New dog
>>>
>>> Hey Jordan, Congrats.
>>>
>>>> On 7/29/19, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Say hello to Oliver. I have been training him since May 17th, and he
>>>> is doing well. He is a male Silber Lab, and the only thing that I
>>>> have not completed training is on street crossings. I have introduced
>>>> him to such over the past week, and the two quiet streets that I had
>>>> him do, he did a perfect job on. In the next few weeks I am going to
>>>> be working on the busier street crossings. First thing I did with him
>>>> was teach him leash guiding, which that totally saved my butt one night.
>>>>
>>>> I took him out to relieve before going to bed, and somehow we ended up
>>>> all the way down at the next street. Well, how to make it home was
>>>> the question since I only had Oliver no cane no cell phone. I looked
>>>> at him, and I said, ok buddy, let's put leash guiding to work here.
>>>> We made it home no problems. Leash guiding comes in handy at work
>>>> when I am carrying things and do not have a hand available for the
>>>> harness handle.
>>>>
>>>> Jordan
>>>>
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>>> NAGDU mailing listhe suggestions. If I may ask one other question:
>> Why do we have to be so careful about grains, looking primarily for
>> grain-free foods for our babies? Thanks again.
>> Elise and
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>> Hey! I haven't investigated the ingredients - I was looking at the
>> flavors first. I will definitely do that. Becky is not allergic to
>> anything, so far. She is doing chicken right now, and previously I had
>> her on the lamb and brown rice choice. Thank you all for your
>> suggestions.
>> Elise and Becky
>>
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