[NAGDU] Lab/goldens

Thu Jun 13 18:41:54 UTC 2019

To me, Krokus looks like a lab, except he has wavy fur on his back.  People
see golden in him, but I think that's because he's very light-colored.  And
Seeing Eye people say his eyes are a color rarely seen outside of TSE
crosses--kind of green-gold.  I'm sure they're lovely.
Other crosses have thicker, more goldenish fur, and more feathers, or so I'm
told.
Tracy

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Lab/goldens

Hi Tracy and all,
I have a Golden, she's not a guide dog though. She's nine but she still acts
like a puppy sometimes. She's not causious though. She isn't overly vocal,
but she does make this weird whining noise when she either really wants you
to do something or if you're not moving fast enough when it's feeding time
or she needs out. She does love to be touching you, preferibley at all
times, and she loves to lean on you. She also likes to sit on your feet.
Does anyone else's dog like to sit on their feet? It's kind of annoying,
especially when she steps on your feet, that hurts. I personally prefer
Goldens, but that could be because I have one. For those of you who have had
Lab/Golden crosses, do they tend to look more like Labs or Goldens? Just
curious since I've never met one.
Madison

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Lab/goldens

Hi Danielle.
Krokus is good about the circular walk, too, and points out places we've
stopped, or ways we usually go.

My brother says goldens like to stand on their heads.  Krokus does
that--stands on his head, then spirals down to lie on his back and get a
belly rub.  
Goldens I have known have tended to melt--lean against someone with their
whole selves.
They also love balls, and the more balls in the mouth at a time, the better.
Krokus only loves balls as much as other labs I've had.
I expect that each cross has its own mix of the traits it gets from its
parents, as well as its own personal quirks, but it's entertaining to try to
figure out which traits came from which breed.  I've never had a golden
myself, so don't know them as well.
Tracy

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Lab/goldens

Tracy,

I think you are right about the caution being Golden. Goldens tend to be a
bit more sensitive than Labs, so it makes sense. My Golden is definitely
more cautious than the cross. In Jackie's case, it is actually a good thing
because it makes her obstacle avoidance phenominal without compromising much
else.

The mischievousness is definitely Golden as well. Golden's tend to stay
puppyish for a very long time, and they like to have some fun.

I personally haven't noticed either my cross or Golden being destination
oriented. They are equally happy with a leisure walk to nowhere in
particular and a route with a destination. As long as the routes aren't
traveled too frequently to make them boring, which they both hate. They both
live to target, but this applies to anything along the route and not
specifically the final destination.

All of the retriever breeds have a tendency to like to pick up, retrieve,
and hold things. Goldens in particular tend to be mouthy, but don't count
the Labs out either. This may or may not be as prevalent in guide dogs since
guide dog programs don't selectively breed for retrieving ability
specifically the way some other working line breeders do. All of my GDF
dogs, two crosses and a Golden, definitely have this trait and so does my
Lab mix puppy. The guide dogs are better about picking up their toys rather
than random objects though.

Goldens also tend to be vocal, and have a tendency to rest their head on
things.

Danielle

On 6/13/19, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Martine.
> That's interesting that your lab/golden was very destination-focussed.
> Krokus is also a lab/golden, and he is the same way.  It can be hard 
> to
get
> him to go past one of our usual destinations.
> Sometimes I try to guess which traits are golden, and which are just him.
> I
> think his extreme caution might be golden, as well as his mischievousness.
> I think it's totally golden to grab my shoe and dance with it.
> Tracy
>
>
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