[NAGDU] Uber cancels again
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pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
Fri Aug 12 16:41:54 UTC 2022
So how do you resolve that if you call the cops and they swear it’s a civil matter when it isn't?
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From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jody ianuzzi via NAGDU
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Cc: Jody ianuzzi <thunderwalker321 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Uber cancels again
No, it was not a civil matter! Chances are that your state statute covers the public access issue as well as the ADA. Many lawn Forssman people think that it is simply a civil matter when it is not
JODY
To Boldly Go 🖖🏻
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"What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS Erik Weihenmayer
> On Aug 12, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Al Sten-Clanton via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> It wasn't uber or Lyft, but when the Fung Wah bus company refused to
> take me because of my guide dog, the cops did come, but said they
> couldn't force Fung Wah to take me because it was a civil law matter.
> During the wonderful and exciting case that arose from this, I never
> heard that the cops could have done more. One of them did drive my
> wife and me to a nearby Amtrak station, so we made the trip anyway.
> (Note: the saga began on 15 January 2004.)
>
>
> Incidentally, our case did make the news, so you might have heard of it. We won a considerable award, technically, but never got a penny because the company crashed here and went elsewhere after losing its appeals.
>
>
> If any state has criminal penalties for this sort of thing, that might indeed be a help.
>
>
> Al
>
>
>> On 8/12/22 08:11, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
>> Hi Jodi.
>> Sorry, won't work. They don't stop; they just drive by. Or, in my case, cancel as soon as they suspect I might have a dog with me.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jody
>> ianuzzi via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 3:28 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Jody ianuzzi
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Uber cancels again
>>
>> It is in violation of state statute and the ADA to deny someone a
>> ride. Perhaps it is time to call the police each and every time and
>> have them charged with a misdemeanor
>>
>> JODY
>>
>> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻
>>
>>
>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>>
>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS
>> Erik Weihenmayer
>>
>>>> On Aug 11, 2022, at 3:25 PM, Al Sten-Clanton via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, this business is utterly frustrating. Before Uber and Lyft, there were cabs and at least one bus company that screwed us this way.
>>>
>>> Particular to Uber and Lyft and their ilk, though, what more particular things do you think we should do? I've been away from law for a long time, so I don't know what remedies we might still have.
>>>
>>> Best!
>>> Al
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Michael Hingson
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 2:35 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Michael Hingson <mike at michaelhingson.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Uber cancels again
>>>
>>> They simply don't care. Uber has demonstrated that time and time again. The question is what are we as an organization going to do differently to address the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Hingson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 11:19 AM
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>>> Cc: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Uber cancels again
>>>
>>> Don’t these guys realize that you know they cancelled. You are not living in a vacuum?
>>> Cindy Ray
>>> cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 11, 2022, at 12:20 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I took Igloo to the vet today to get a heartworm test so I can
>>>> order him more meds. When I was done, I sent for an Uber. When I
>>>> got a driver, I messaged him to say to come around to the back
>>>> parking lot of the animal clinic, since it's hard to find. I also
>>>> said I'm blind and to call out to me. Shortly afterwards, that
>>>> driver cancelled. I really doubt it was a coincidence.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps I should have added that I have a service dog?
>>>>
>>>> Last time I tried to complain about a driver cancelling when he saw
>>>> I have a service dog, I got no satisfaction at all. Clearly Uber
>>>> is no longer interested, even as much as they ever were.
>>>>
>>>> It's becoming a trend.
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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