[NAGDU] Owner training a guide dog

Leye-Shprintse Oeberg leyeshprintse at gmail.com
Tue Jul 12 17:44:36 UTC 2022 

בס’ד

Hi,

I’d both second the book “Courage to Dare” by Julie Johnson and the book “Forward Together” by Christie Bane, the first one an owner-trainer herself and the last one a guide dog instructor who has worked for Guide Dogs for the Blind and Leader Dogs if I remember correctly, both titles are available on Amazon Kindle. There’s also Julie Johnson’s email list for guide dog owner-trainers which you can subscribe to through sending an email to guidedog-owner-trainers+subscribe at groups.io if I remember correctly.

לשלום,
Leye-Shprintse Oeberg
Jönköping, SE
leyeshprintse at gmail.com
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> On 12 Jul 2022, at 12:24, Debbe Gabe via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> There is another book that talks about guide dogs from breeding through training for guiding blind people. It's called Forward Together and it is on BARD in audio format.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:26 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Owner training a guide dog
> 
> Julie Johnson wrote a book about owner training.  It's available on Amazon.  I think it's called Courage to Dare, but not real sure about that.
> Tracy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam Doman via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:32 AM
> To: Vivianna via NAGDU
> Cc: Sam Doman
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Owner training a guide dog
> 
> Hi, I was curious about that myself. Is there a good sight or what would be some good books you'd recommend for learning more about this topic?
> Thanks,
> SamOn Jul 11, 2022 8:40 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> Because, i like dogs and like training them. I am willing to put in 
>> the time and effort. I know what i want in a dog. I can choose my own 
>> dog and breed of dog. I can train the dog the way i want. I have the 
>> financial ability to take care of my own dog and buy my own gear. And so many other things.
>> But, i do definitely think it’s not for everybody. Or, may i dare say, 
>> for most folks. The amount of time alone to train a dog from pup to 
>> working dog is many many hours of consistent work.
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Vivianna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 11, 2022, at 8:03 PM, Shelby Jones via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am choosing to owner train because the waiting lists are more than two years. I also really enjoy training dogs.
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 11, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Brent Franklin via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I find this an interesting discussion. The question is why? What 
>>>> made you go down that path.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers.
>>>> 
>>>> Brent.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vivianna 
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2022 10:50 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Cc: Vivianna
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Owner training a guide dog
>>>> 
>>>> Hi.
>>>> Yes, i have trained several of my guides. And, i did not use any “resources”.
>>>> Owner-training is just that, training your own dog. So, i did all 
>>>> of the training. If you are using a trainer and having your dog 
>>>> trained then that is having your dog privately trained and, it’s quite costly.
>>>> There are training books available now, as well as loads of youtube 
>>>> videos etc. but, i trained most of my dogs without these. I read 
>>>> them now though because, they are there and i can. I am currently 
>>>> working my 3.5 year old boy so won’t have to do it again for a while i hope.
>>>> 
>>>> Vivianna
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 11, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Shelby Jones via NAGDU 
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> I am considering owner training a guide dog. I was wondering, if 
>>>>> you owner trained your guide what resources did you use? In my 
>>>>> area there are no professional trainers that train guide dogs.
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Shelby
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Debbie Malone via NAGDU 
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey guys I had serious audio issues at both Magda meetings so I 
>>>>>> really didn't hear what Tim was proposing. Anybody want a sunrise 
>>>>>> for me? I think we should schedule a negative meeting very soon 
>>>>>> to see if nagged you and nfb will do more. Then we can decide 
>>>>>> what happens from there. What do you think?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 3:39 PM Michael Hingson via NAGDU 
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The law suit did something. It simply wasn't that we made Uber's 
>>>>>>> need to comply strong enough. What Tim discussed at the NAGDU 
>>>>>>> meeting is a start, but we already did that. We need to not only 
>>>>>>> pursue what Tim suggested, but we need to look at other possible 
>>>>>>> options. Not going to discuss too much in public right now. If 
>>>>>>> NAGDU leaders want to discuss then we can schedule time. There 
>>>>>>> are options we can explore.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Michael Hingson
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of robert 
>>>>>>> stigile via NAGDU
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 12:13 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>> Users < nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: robert stigile <rstigile at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Uber response
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So what are you proposing since a lawsuit did absolutely nothing!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the 
>>>>>>> Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter
>>>>>>> 818-381-9568
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Debbie Malone via NAGDU 
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Michael, I totally agree. It's time to take more serious 
>>>>>>>> action. And the time is now.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 2:06 PM Michael Hingson via NAGDU 
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The fact is that Uber does not take you nor any of us 
>>>>>>>>> seriously. When will NAGDU and the NFB go after Uber as a 
>>>>>>>>> company for violating the ADA? Time for settlements to go 
>>>>>>>>> away. Uber already thinks so. We should strategize.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Michael Hingson
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>>>>>>>> Carcione via NAGDU
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 10:46 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Uber response
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The final response I got was that they monitor "high 
>>>>>>>>> cancellation rates"
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> warn drivers about them. What are the odds of that driver 
>>>>>>>>> finding another service dog user to cancel on within the next few months?
>>>>>>>>> Pretty darned unlikely, I think.  So he gets away with it, and 
>>>>>>>>> Uber totally doesn't even understand the problem.
>>>>>>>>> You might be right; it's not a human responding.
>>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>>> Star Gazer via NAGDU
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 11:31 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Star Gazer; 'Tracy Carcione'
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Uber response
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>                           They aren't, almost sounds like an 
>>>>>>>>> AI response.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>>>>>>>> Carcione via NAGDU
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 9:39 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Uber response
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am not happy with Uber's response to my complaint about a 
>>>>>>>>> driver cancelling and driving off when he saw my dog.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I put the trip date/time in my complaint, and I also chose the 
>>>>>>>>> correct trip on my way to the form, and I saw the date/time 
>>>>>>>>> seemingly attached to my comment.  And yet I got a message 
>>>>>>>>> from Uber saying they couldn't find the trip.  So I wrote 
>>>>>>>>> again, repeating the info I'd already given them.  Then I got 
>>>>>>>>> a response saying the price was good and they couldn't do 
>>>>>>>>> anything about it and I wouldn't get a refund.  I wrote back saying I don't want a refund.
>>>>>>>>> I want them to tell the driver not to cancel a trip when he 
>>>>>>>>> sees a service dog.  It's like they're not even reading what I'm saying.
>>>>>>>>> Grrrr.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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