[NFB-Braille-Discussion] UEB indicators

Mon Aug 30 15:51:05 UTC 2021

All,

Unpopular opinion, but I much, much prefer UEB to EBAE. I grew up
sighted, and I can practically fly through UEB in comparison. I have
to do so much less decoding and recoding with UEB.

On 8/30/21, Sahar's Beaded Creations via NFB-Braille-Discussion
<nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> It's something you have to get used to. For those of us who have read it
> since we were children, to learn UEB, we have to read it all the time. I
> took the Hadley course, and then, I wrote a book teaching it. I used it all
> the time. It was the only way to get used to it. I got certified twice, but
> I knew that, to succeed, I had to practice it all the time. It's really not
> all that different once you get used to it. 😊 good luck.
>
> Warm regards,
> Sahar Husseini
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org> On
> Behalf Of Jen via NFB-Braille-Discussion
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 9:29 AM
> To: Steve Jacobson via NFB-Braille-Discussion
> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jen <spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] UEB indicators
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. It helps I'm getting books and magazines in UEB
> so I can see the rules in practice. Am I the only one struggling with UEB? I
> was trained in EBAE at age five, in 1991. So UEB literally feels wrong to
> me. It's also hard getting used to the decontractions of by, to and other
> ones. I liked those contractions and computer braille, too...
>
>
>
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> On Monday, August 30, 2021, 10:17:30 AM EDT, Steve Jacobson via
> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
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>
> Jen,
>
> Everybody is different, but I found as long as I wrote in EBAE, UEB just
> didn't stick that well for me.  Especially since you are taking the UEB
> certification for some reason, I would think that it might be worth trying
> to write in UEB as well.  In my case, I found that using UEB when I used a
> braille display on my iPhone really revealed my errors to me.  I had to be
> careful to listen to my text messages before sending, of course, but it
> helped me.  I won't tell you that I was always happy with my progress,
> though, but it worked for me better than hanging on to EBAE.
>
> Most people who are just reading braille can read both codes without a lot
> of work, but if one is transcribing or proofreading, one really has to be
> able to think in UEB, and that takes mor work.  I don't do either, but I
> worked some with braille translation software and wanted to learn to think
> in UEB for that reason.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org> On
> Behalf Of Jen via NFB-Braille-Discussion
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 7:45 AM
> To: Brown, Debbie via NFB-Braille-Discussion
> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jen <spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] UEB indicators
>
> Thank you so much! I'm keeping this e-mail for future reference. Hopefully,
> I won't struggle with UEB like this in the future. Even if I get relatively
> good ate UEB, I'll always braille for myself in EBAE. Actually, I wonder if
> people still want or use EBAE now or if it will even be recognized by
> notetakers and embossers.
>
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> On Monday, August 30, 2021, 06:43:26 AM EDT, Brown, Debbie via
> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> About Jen's confusion about the bold indicator:  One of the basic concepts
> of UEB is that each braille sign is composed of a root plus possibly one or
> more prefixes.  Prefixes are all of the righthand characters (the octave
> sings if you are a braille music user) plus the number indicator (dots
> 3456).  By this rule, the final character could not be dot 5.  All of the
> typeform indicators work the same way, with dot 2 for word indicators, dots
> 23 for letter indicators, and dots 2356 for passage indicators.  The way I
> keep them straight is that dots 45 is the bold indicator (it looks a little
> like "b" for "bold"); dots 46 is italic (like the old braille italic sign);
> dots 456 is underline (like the old computer braille code underscore
> indicator).
>
> Debbie Brown
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Jen via NFB-Braille-Discussion
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 12:23 PM
> To: nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Jen <spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] I'm Kind of Excited #2
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Do you know where I can buy the large envelopes for mailing materials for
> the course? Thanks!
>
> Course update - I completed Exercise Two, my first assignment. It was a lot
> harder than I thought, due to UEB, but I got through it in about two hours.
> I'm sure I made mistakes, but that's okay because if I was perfect, I
> wouldn't need to be in the course. I plan to spend the time waiting for an
> instructor practicing the drills for Lesson Two. I decided to start with the
> exercise and then go back and do the drills so I could really see where I
> needed work. I finally figured out, while doing the drills yesterday, the
> right dot combination for the boldface indicator - it's dots 4-5 and dot 2,
> not dots 4-5 and dot 5. Which means I mixed up the running head for the
> whole exercise. Darn it. But I got the centering and margins right.
>
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