[nfb-db] rules in the ASLlab
heather albright
kd5cbl at gmail.com
Wed Sep 18 18:04:37 UTC 2013
Yes, they said that I have to follow the rules of the lab! They did not
even want me to take the ASL class in the OSD office! I was going to bring
my mom as my reader because DARS is not providing me reader services
because, I already have a degree. But OSD said she could not be my reader
but I don't have the money to hirer one myself without DARS help. I have to
CHOOSE either a reader or an interpreter , I cant have both! I will find
out today! I was taking ASL for myself but it is proving rather stressful
which is not good for my MS! If I have to much stress today, I will have to
drop the course! I cant walk if I get to stresse because my mussles git
really tite and weak! I will try to stay because, I need it for myself and
my tactile interpreters in class are doing there best! Heather -----
Original Message -----
From: maurice mines
To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-db] rules in the ASLlab
Good morning, here's my two cents on this. A solution is that if you have to
watch the videos, arrange for a room where you can communicate with the
person who's helping you in the most comfortable manner that you see fit,
and so long as it is the least restrictive environment for you in the
classroom, and you can get unfortunately the disabled services office to
hopefully help you out and/or stand behind you on what you and the professor
agree upon, then I think you guys can come up with something that is
workable. the problem Janice is a fun reading this right she doesn't have a
braille notetaker in place currently correct? So I think she'd have to find
someplace where she can speak. Because I'm going to assume that her primary
issue is blindness at this point? So demanding that she not speak, I think
would not be an appropriate thing to ask based on blindness. The professor
needs to understand that. If the school doesn't get it then there are other
things she can do and probably should be doing. Just my two cents worth.
Another resource of course is the national student's email list. Perhaps
some of them have some suggestions? If I'm coming across as being someone on
the radical side of things, it's only because I have had to fight some of
these fights in my very distant past, but now I find myself going back into
a classroom as a student. And also working for the disabled student services
office part time. It certainly makes me think whenever issues like this,,
which side of my on-campus life in my going to be on? The student side or
the professional side?
Sincerely Maurice, secretary national Federation of the blind of Clark
County chapter. Phone 360-524-0791, school email address,
Maurice.mines at PCC.edu
On Sep 18, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Janice Toothman <janice.toothman at verizon.net>
wrote:
Hi Heather.
Is your Braille notetaker set up to act as a deaf-blind communicator? It
is or you have a DBC then you can ask your questions on the DBC/notetaker
and the sighted ASL partner could read it and provide the tactile ASL
answer. I know my HIMS Braille Sense U2 has an LED screen in which the
sight person can read the question/comment and then type their response
either your Qwerty or Braille keypad but also you can pair it with a Iphone
using a Bluetooth connection. The I Can Connect program can provide you
with this technology.
Janice
On 9/18/2013 11:31 AM, heather albright wrote:
I am taking the course in a class room where my professor is deaf and
does not speak! So I have a note taker, a reader for the board, and two
deaf interpreters who sign to me what the professor saying and showing me
the signs! I don't speak with them I just guess, sometimes a classmate will
tell me what the teacher is saying, the one who reads the board! That is in
the classroom. We have to have lab hours in the ASL lab making videos to
show our signing and you have to watch the videos to get the infromation to
be able to make your signing videos with quicktime! While in the lab, you
cant speak to ask questions or bring a voice reader to read the videos, your
not allowed to use spoken language in the lab! I just feel like their
making this really hard for me to participate in the ASL program here! For
example, I go to the lab today for tutoringand I have to sign in with my id
and some how find the person to whom I will be working with to learn the
signs, without ever speaking at all! So if we are watching videos, they
will be signing to me and I have to guess what their trying to convey to me!
I understand not wating to use spoken language but everyone is learning
through their eyes by seeing the signs and seeing the book telling them the
sign! I have nothing telling me anything, no braille book and no way to
understand the tactile signs because I cant ask what their signing to me!
Any ideas? Heather ----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Jacobson
To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-db] rules in the ASLlab
Explain more how you are taking this class? How are you getting the
information being conveyed in general? It would seem as
though there must be something that could be worked out with the
instructor to signal when you don't get something without
speaking? This is an interesting dilema since it could affect any blind
person taking a course like this.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:29:08 -0500, heather albright wrote:
>My problem is that they told me I cant speak if I have any questions or
ask
>about a sign or how to make the sign! They said I will be asked to
leave
>and cant come back till the next day! If I do it more than three
times, I
>am band from the lab for 2 weeks! But I cant read the book with all
the
>signs or see the videos! I am supposed to have 21 hours in the lab! I
>understand that you should use ASL but if you don't know it, how can
you use
>it! If you cant see the person signing, what should you do? I have
two
>tactile interpreters signing to me with me know any sign language at
all. I
>only get 5 percent of what their saying! Is there a better method of
>teaching me? Even people taking ESL use their language to teach
someone
>English!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: RJ Sandefur
>To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
>Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-db] rules in the ASLlab
>Hay I don't see any problem
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: heather albright
> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:13 PM
> Subject: [nfb-db] rules in the ASLlab
> Hello, I was wondering about the rules in the ASL lab! They said I
cant
>talk in the lab at all, it is against the rules to speak! So if I
don't get
>something, I cant ask to be sure! Is that not against ADA because, I
won't
>have equal access to the lab! If I speak they can make me leave, they
said I
>can go to another room but, it won't be the lab! Afterall I am blind
and
>if I cant ask about a sign, that seems a little unfair! So how can a
>colledge say this to me and other blind students taking ASL? Heather
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