[NFB-DB] my thoughts on the captioning trial during last Thursday's presidential release.

[maurice mines]

good evening Scott I've been asked just how much is this service 
compared to the normal price if there is one? The questions have come to 
me from people here in California. Of course any information you give me 
on this I will also share with our state affiliate president in Idaho 
who was looking for what to do with her state convention next March. 
Because yes it is beginning to look like we will go into 20,021. And in 
fact the latest comment is they won't even okay the trials meeting the 
widespread use of this potential you're in a trial there are three of 
them until probably sometime late in November and the trials apparently 
must last at least six months. Which means the trials would finish 
sometime during next spring and maybe might get final approval say in 
May or June that's cut that awful close to convention back so close that 
I think many organizations like us will yes be forced to have a second 
virtual convention.


Just for the record I started out using the service on OS X Catalina. I 
would love to get the opportunity to tested with the current beta of Big 
Sur. However I suspect that Big Sur's freebies is imminent. I say 
there's a good chance that it may possibly be declared released at next 
Tuesday's phone event. Stay tuned.


I also used it quite extensively in Microsoft Windows in fact I'd say 
about 85% of the release was spent in Windows. About my only issue was 
how slow the caption text arrived. I hope this helps?


Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by 
means of dictation software. If there's something in this text that you 
truly don't understand, please feel free to let me know what your issue 
is, I will do my very best to clear up any misunderstandings that may 
arise. Thank you very much for reading this.



On 10/6/2020 11:48 AM, Scott Davert via NFB-DB wrote:
> Hello Maurice.
> I, too, wish this conversation could have happened prior to
> convention. I reached out to the NFB prior to it to offer my
> assistance in testing, and I think a couple of other division members
> did the same, but as far as I know, our assistance was never taken.
> So, here we are now, and at least we are making progress even if it's
> later than we hoped. This year was a trial run for a lot of people who
> were doing the virtual convention for the first time. This request for
> feedback is a part of the effort to make things more accessible for
> all next summer. I suspect we will be having another virtual
> convention, but who knows?
> TO clarify, they used live captioners at the event and the Zoom
> feature which allows them to have live captioning. There is a Zoom
> plug-in called Rev Live Captions, which provides automatic captions,
> this is not what the NFB used. Live captioners, yes, that plug in for
> Zoom, no. I'm not sure where the break down in clarity happened, but I
> suspect it is partially because of that name. I'm just glad we are
> moving forward with this!
> Thanks for your feedback concerning the presidential release. Were you
> using Mac OS with VoiceOver and a braille display or an iOS device to
> follow the captions? I'm glad you had success with it in either case.
>
> Best,
> Scott
>
> On 10/5/20, maurice mines via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello Scott and everyone else. I used the option last Thursday because I
>> was having technical issues I am excited to say it worked perfectly for
>> me. I was concerned that things were moving too slow is far is the
>> reading in braille but at times it seemed to work out just fine. I think
>> doing this in the future definitely has some potential possibilities. I
>> just wish that this discussion had happened earlier.
>>
>>
>> The reason why I say I wish the edit occurred earlier this could have
>> been employed for our state's upcoming state convention. This would
>> especially be helpful, if there was some idea of the cost and figure out
>> the cost is lower to do the stream caption than the zoom captioning
>> which is actually done by a live person. What I'm getting at here is
>> both services have humans doing the transcription. But when I have read
>> the normal captioning there seems to be some things missing. There is
>> last Thursday's experience I was happy that I did not miss a word of it.
>> I hope my comments help? Be safe, and be well, and have an outstanding
>> week.
>>
>>
>> Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by
>> means of dictation software. If there's something written about that you
>> don't understand, please let me know if there really is something that
>> you can't understand I will make every effort to help clear up any
>> misunderstandings that may have arisen based on my comments above. Thank
>> you all very much for reading this.
>>
>> --
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community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of 
the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live 
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