[NFB-DB] Fwd: Now Hiring - Please Share
Sheila
sheila.leigland at gmail.com
Tue Mar 22 14:31:19 UTC 2022
tracy what is pt and how does it work? I think I remember something like
that mentioned at hknc bhut some folks were uncomfortable with it
On 3/15/2022 2:43 PM, Tracie Inman via NFB-DB wrote:
> Hello:
> Please remove the hyphen between the words "Deaf" and "Blind". We no
> longer use it. We are DeafBlind. A couple of thoughts on your
> statements come to mind. First, I am a bit offended by your statement
> of "bringing baggage from my former life" when I became DeafBlind. For
> me, I was much too young to remember life before becoming DeafBlind,
> so how could I have "baggage"? One does not carry "baggage" into a
> disability. Maybe that is your perception, but it is not mine.
> PT (ProTactile) is itself now a language of the DeafBlind. It is a
> language unique to the DeafBlind. None of the concepts of PT are
> "borrowed" from either the ASL or the English languages. It is a
> language of tactile communication providing visual and auditory
> information to the DeafBlind.
> That said, we have not two, not three, but four languages. TASL
> (Tactile ASL) must also be counted.
> The DeafBlind world is a "melting pot" of culture, language, and
> lifestyles unique only to our community. Joe Naulty once explained it
> this way: (We love you Joe and your unique perceptions are so
> awesome!) "The DeafBlind community is like a pretzel: there are many
> parts in the whole pretzel"
> The challenge we face is full inclusion and integration in our
> communities. We have so many barriers to overcome. We are, in so
> many ways, a "forgotten" minority. We face so many isolations and
> obstacles. Yet, when we come together we are joyful. We can "touch"
> each other in a positive way to communicate directly with one another
> in a language that is ours.
> I believe with all my heart that our community is special. We are
> unique. We have a lot to give back to society. We show people, and the
> world around us, that we, too, can live the life we want - with joy,
> love, and peace - together through touch, through total communication,
> and through peer support.
>
> Kind regards,
> Tracie
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 4:03 PM Rod and Ele Macdonald via NFB-DB
> <nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Scott,
>
> The situation is not likely to improve much until someone who
> actually wants "the job" challenges the discriminatory practice.
>
> The underlying issue is that blind people regard themselves to be
> part of a community, while Deaf people regard themselves to be
> part of a culture. There is a big difference. When a blind person
> or a Deaf person "becomes" deaf-blind, that person brings baggage
> from their "former life" into a new identity.
>
> I wrote a paper in 1989 entitled, "Deaf-Blindness: An Emerging
> Culture?" That paper introduced the "possibility" that a culture
> unique to deaf-blind people exists, or at least was in the process
> of developing. "Deaf-Blind Culture" was a controversial topic back
> then, but it is a cherished belief among many now. The question is
> - is there a comprehensive culture of deaf-blind people?
>
> I know of no other culture that has TWO languages - and both
> English and ASL are not "ours" but are borrowed from hearing
> people and Deaf people, and that does not even take PT into
> account. We do not even have a unified means of receiving and
> expresssing our language, even assuming we came from one sid3e or
> the other. Braille can be a "natural" means of accessing written
> information, but ASL does not have a written component and those
> who grew up relying on visual ASL find it hard to learn or feel
> comfortable with braille.
>
> I think that at some point we - us, not professionals who serve
> our group - need to decide: do we embrace the concept of an
> umbrella culture we all belong to, a culture with two languages
> and many, often competing needs? Or are we to go for two separate
> groups based opon language needs?
>
> I am wholeheartedly in favor of the "umbrella". I think we are too
> small a group to divide into sub-groups. I think we share
> toomuchtogether to focus on how we are different.
>
> One can be blind and become deaf, and one can be deaf and become
> blind. The new person ... physically there is no difference, but
> culturally? The baggage from our "former" life will dictate our
> outlook, needs and our approach. I am all for an identity that
> embraces who we have become, and not who we once were.
>
> Rod
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Davert via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
> To: nfb-db at nfbnet.org
> CC: scottdavert at gmail.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:08 am
> Subject: Re: [NFB-DB] Fwd: Now Hiring - Please Share
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Rod.
> > It's very concerning. Unless PA has another form of service delivery
> > for those who are "ASL illiterate?" I find the entire thing sad and
> > agree 100% with your views on this subject. This is a sad example of
> > how far we have not progressed.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On 3/14/22, Rod and Ele Macdonald via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> > Scott,
> >
> > You are spot-on in my opinion.
> >
> > The deaf-blind "culture" - I introduced this concept over 30
> years ago and
> > still believe in it - is the only culture I know of with TWO
> languages,
> > neither of which is "ours". (We borrow English from hearing
> people and ASL
> > from Deaf people, then try to adapt as best we can.) I believe
> that any
> > person who is (1) blind, has low vision, or has tunnel vision
> AND (2) is
> > deaf or hard-of-hearing, is a deaf-blind person, and any attempt
> to provide
> > services to this group should take into account the needs of the
> entire
> > population to be served.
> >
> > I would presumably be a consumer of such services if I lived in
> the service
> > area, but I neither use ASL nor have usable hearing: What should
> the hiring
> > authority put in the job description such that my communication
> needs are
> > "covered"?
> >
> > It is a challenge, but an issue that should be challenged.
> >
> > Rod
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Scott Davert via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
> > To: nfb-db at nfbnet.org
> > CC: scottdavert at gmail.com
> > Date: Monday, March 14, 2022 12:52 pm
> > Subject: [NFB-DB] Fwd: Now Hiring - Please Share
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Passing along. I noticed there is no mention of the requirement
> forhard of
> >> hearing culture and that ASL fluency is required. I guess they
> only want a
> >> someone who is DEAF STRONG for this. Maybe my impression is
> off? I'm
> >> passing this along as FYI...
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >> From: Richard <prmcgann at comcast.net>
> >> Date: March 14, 2022 at 10:47:04 EDT
> >> To: NADBAmericans at groups.io, aadb-l at googlegroups.com,
> "Professionals
> >> Serving DeafBlind Consumers (PSDBC)" <psdbc at googlegroups.com>
> >> Subject: [AADB-L] Fwd: Now Hiring - Please Share
> >> Reply-To: aadb-l at googlegroups.com
> >>
> >> ?
> >> to all,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> passing around.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> >> Subject: Now Hiring - Please Share
> >> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:39:02 -0400
> >> From: SSP Program <ssp at deafstone.org>
> >> To: SSP Program <ssp at deafstone.org>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> Please share the following open positions:
> >>
> >> * Director of DeafBlind Services - West PA
> >> * Director of DeafBlind Services - East PA
> >> * SSP Coordinator - East PA
> >>
> >> Job descriptions attached in Word and PDF documents.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Jessica K Adams, CI & CT
> >> COO
> >> Email: JAdams at DeafStone.org
> >> Phone/Text/FaceTime: 412-616-0400
> >> Pronouns: She/Her/Hers
> >>
> >> www.DeafStone.org <http://www.DeafStone.org>
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