[Nfb-krafters-korner] Kindle & Knitting Books - Electronic Craft Books and Magazines

slery slerythema at insightbb.com
Tue Mar 31 18:55:32 UTC 2009 

Hopefully, large or national groups will be able to make the difference.

I recently had a bad experience with a non-craft related book. The publisher
would only provide an electronic file if I was a student. The digital file I
purchased did not work with a screenreader. Scanning the book myself did not
work either because the book was full of little target signs, check mark
graphics, tip graphics on every page. The scanned file was such a mess as to
make it useless. They had me buy the e-file that was still inaccessible. 

Eventually, I was able to downgrade my adobe reader in order to read the
file with the text-aloud feature.

The company did not care that I was spending money on their books and still
not able to use them.

Cindy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Nancy Yeager
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:00 PM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Kindle & Knitting Books - 
> Electronic Craft Books and Magazines
> 
> 
> Dear Fellow Crafters (and anyone else who cares),
> 
> I'm thrilled someone has brought this up as it is a "hot 
> button issue" for me.  I would like to see us work with other 
> NFB groups/divisions, as the lack of access to electronic 
> books and magazines by blind folks using screen readers is a big deal.
> 
> There are bunches of eBooks and emagazines on all types of 
> crafts - knitting, crocheting, sewing, beading, soap and 
> cosmetic-making, just to name a few categories.  The most 
> common download format is PDF.  Until a couple of years ago, 
> we could often purchase one of these books and download it 
> and read it, if we had acrobat reader 6.  Then, to improve 
> the ability of publishers to prevent copyright violations, 
> either publishers or eBook venders, I don't know which, 
> started using adobe Digital Edition for PDF books.  As far as 
> I know, Digital Edition is not accessible to blind persons 
> using screen readers.  There are a few books in TXT, html, 
> word and other formats but I haven't found craft books in 
> those formats.  Besides Amazon, I've searched (and bought 
> inaccessible books from ebookmall and ebooks.com.
> 
> There are also a number of online crafting-related magazines. 
>  I was really excited the first time I found one related to 
> beading.  I found the table of contents and clicked on the 
> article I wanted to read.  Then, I was able to click on each 
> page of the article.  The only problem was that I could not 
> access any of the text on any of the pages.
> 
> I have downloaded individual pdf patterns and used them but 
> there are a lot of resources out there that are available to 
> the general public electronically and it would certainly be 
> terrific if we as blind crafters could also use them.
> 
> I'll get down off my soap box now, and would love to hear 
> from anyone who might have tips or ideas on how we can access 
> this ever-growing body of material.
> 
> Nancy Yeager
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Powers, Terry
> (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:56 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Kindle & Knitting Books?
> 
> So your saying we could use a format that works on the stream 
> or computer and maybe, even emboss it, if it were not to 
> long!  Am I right? Never tried them before.  Are there any 
> books on any other crafts? National Braille Press would be 
> another option if you buy the book first. Terry
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slery [mailto:slerythema at insightbb.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:05 AM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Kindle & Knitting Books?
> 
> Amazon has different formats for download. The Kindle is its 
> own format. If a book is offered for the Kindle, it will say 
> Kindle not some other type. If you use the advanced search 
> feature, the formats available are: print, Kindle, audio, 
> html, pdf, calendar.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen
> > Scrivani
> > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:04 PM
> > To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Kindle & Knitting Books?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks.  It figures that the books are only accessible on that
> > particular unit or I-Phone.  I found some information about 
> the Kindle
> 
> > on AccessWorld, but it was left unclear what format the 
> books came in.
> 
> > I was only interested in the knitting books, but don't want a Kindle
> > unit.  I'm happy with both the Victor Reader & Audible & 
> NLS for the 
> > majority of my other reading.  Eileen
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
> > To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
> > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Kindle & Knitting Books?
> > 
> > 
> > > It is my understanding that the format of the books 
> created for the
> > > Kindle, are exclusive to the Kindle.  Additionally, it is my
> > understanding that
> > > the
> > > text to speech feature available on the Kindle is only
> > available when the
> > > publisher makes that feature available in specific books.
> > This is only
> > > information that I have read on the product, and have not
> > had any hands-on
> > > experience.
> > >
> > > Another source for electronic books is Overdrive and NetLibrary.
> > > Check
> > > with
> > > your local library to see if they participate.  Be aware
> > that you are
> > > looking for audio books, and not e-books.  However, I've
> > been told that
> > > some
> > > e-books can be accessed if the PDF has been created properly.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Annette
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > > [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Eileen
> > > Scrivani
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:43 PM
> > > To: nfb-krafters-korner
> > > Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Kindle & Knitting Books?
> > >
> > > Hi Folks:
> > >
> > > This is a little off topic because its related to the 
> "Kindle" book
> > > player which is  a digital/audio type of player that is sold 
> > > exclusively through Amazon.com
> > >
> > > Any way, I know that the device Kindle is not fully
> > accessible to the
> > > blind.
> > > However, on the Amazon web site, there are a number of
> > knitting books that
> > > are in down-loadable format and I was just wondering if
> > anyone on this
> > > list
> > > knows if these books can be played on a Victor reader
> > Stream or other
> > > accessible player?  If so, can I just purchase those titles
> > I'm interested
> > > in, download to my drive and then copy onto my Victor
> > Reader? without the
> > > purchase & use of any additional software  Thanks for any
> > info on the
> > > subject.
> > >
> > > If this has gone to off course for this list, email me directly.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Eileen
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