[Nfb-krafters-korner] Treasurer's reports was: classes and times

[Eileen Scrivani]

Cindy:

As Joyce was going through setting up the Ravelry group, I was informed that 
the group went by the naming convention of "Krafters Korner Division of the 
NFB."  Frankly I don't care what the exact naming of the group is here, it 
is a division of the NFB and  I think we all pretty much understand that In 
the scope of the discussion it is an minor point.

Next, this is the one and only NFB division I pay dues to.  There is one 
other list serve that I am subscribed to but do not pay dues to.  Also an 
unimportant issue in this discussion.  What other divisions do or don't do 
how they report or report on limited basis doesn't concern me all that much 
either, but because the question of ownership & selling my materials was 
discussed during a board meeting that absolutely concerns me greatly.

This entire topic has built to a level of upheaval that everyone doesn't 
like, so why can't the board call an eemergency open meeting and get this 
settled?  Isn't the Monday night phone chat available for something like 
this if needed?

Third, I am trying to prevent the board members of the NFB KK division from 
walking away  with the rights to the materials that I prepared for students 
that participated in and attended classes I developed and taught and which I 
taught on behalf of this NFB division. Because I am not a snake, I will not 
rat out on anyone who might have relayed different discussions that occured 
during the meeting, but can you disprove what the board of this group has 
been planning on doing? More game playing and dishonest wording going on 
here.  Can you disprove that this topic was not discussed at Wednesday 
night's meeting?  In fact wasn't the question of who owns the recordings 
asked of you?




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From: "slery" <slerythema at insightbb.com>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 2:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Treasurer's reports was: classes and 
times

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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Three ()3) years is a long time and most all of the people on
>> the Board of
>> the Krafters Korner division have been long-time members of other NFB
>> divisions and are aware of how meeting & reports are handled and the
>> frequency with which they are & should be prepared.  Let's
>> get real on this
>> one.
>
> First, let me correct you. This is not the Krafters Korner Division. It is
> the NFB Krafters Division and this is the Krafters Korner listserv.
>
> Have you ever asked us for reports? Have you ever been denied a report?
>
> Just because reports are not posted to this email list does not mean that
> they are not being done. Do you seriously think the National Office is not
> being given reports? Come on, Eileen. As you have pointed out, you are a
> member of other divisions and know this to be a fact.
>
>>
>> I'm one of the people who's materials are trying to be
>> scammed and profited
>> from by the NFB without my permission.
>
> Show me evidence that we have profited from your materials without your
> permission? I have yet to see any money added to the treasury that 
> confirms
> this false statement.
>
>>Do you or other board
>> members deny
>> having discussed your legal strong hold on my class recordings or the
>> recordings of other instructors?
>
> Apparently, you need a definition of the word "discussion" and then maybe
> for good measure "decision." The board "discusses" a lot of things. There
> are a lot of things that end on the "discussion" table because they are 
> not
> feasible or certain things must be done first or they might come about 
> years
> down the road after details have all been worked out. Might I also point 
> out
> that this is three years down the road and STILL in discussion.
>
>>Further, do you deny having
>> discussed that
>> the NFB owns those recordings and will sell them as fund
>> raisers for the
>> NFB?
>>
> Again, please learn what a discussion is. I can guarantee you that legal
> rights came up in this "discussion" and I can also guarantee you that we 
> are
> not lawyers and know that we are not lawyers and that we have to have
> permissions.
>
>> I know a little more about what was discussed in that meeting
>> than you
>> think, even though I did not have the opportunity to call in
>> and speak up
>> for myself.
>
> Well, apparently, you don't know as much as you think you know because 
> then
> you would know that we discussed what is and is not legal and know that we
> are not lawyers and have to really look into certain things before they 
> can
> move beyond the "discussion" phase and into actually happening. Since you
> "know a little more about what was 'discussed'", then please enlightening 
> me
> on what motion was made that guarantees we are going to "scam" your
> material. I think it is pretty obvious that whatever happens, no one would
> touch your material with any length of pole.
>
> It is really sad that this has gone this far simply because there was no
> patience to wait for an answer to your first comment about not wanting 
> your
> recordings used. This is obviously a very strong subject with you and I am
> totally baffled as to why you ever let your classes be recorded in the 
> first
> place. Did you speak up when we started the recordings of classes and say
> you didn't want that for your classes? I am not aware if such a 
> "discussion"
> with you took place so I am asking.
>
>
>
>
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