[Nfb-krafters-korner] Extremely Dissapointed

Sat Jan 8 22:03:05 UTC 2011

Hi Henrietta:

My first comments are directed to you.  As I go on they are meant for NFB KK 
leadership so don't misunderstand what I'm writing to you vs them.

Don't discount what you have contributed to the group.  You have had a lot 
of good contributions, including your bubble gum trip. and crafty kids stuff

It is not about how many or how few classes an instructor teaches, how good 
or how poor the quality, if that instructor has plans in the works currently 
to turn their materials into a business or not, the bottom line is that it 
is materials owned by the instructor and it is unlawful for anyone or any 
organization to lay claims upon it without written and express consent by & 
from the owner of those materials.  If you or any other on the list choose 
to say to the Krafters Korner division, or for those who may not understand 
what group I'm referring to, the NFB Krafter's Korner Division, then that is 
your choice & right as the owner of those materials to say, "I don't care, 
you can have the stuff I made, wrote, created, taught and do with my 
materials as the organization sees fit.  It is my gift."
That is the call of the individual owner of those particular materials 
regarding their own materials, however, it is not my call nor am I or will I 
ever gift such materials/property away.  If certain board members want to be 
nasty and say they have no desire to touch my materials or anything 
asssociated with me of a pole of any length, then that board member and the 
President of the division should both have the integrity & intelligence 
along with the courage to step up to the plate and say, "
Eileen, we, the NFB Krafters Korner, have no claim of ownership on your 
materials, We have not and will not in the future attempt to sell your 
materials and we acknowledge that you as the developer & instructor of 
"Beginner Knitting", "Reading Knitting Instructions", "Knitting in the round 
with Magic Loop & 2 Circs", "using A Life Line", "Cast On Techniques",  & 
"Double Knitted Pouch", are the sole owner of all related materials 
developed for the teaching of these classes to our membership.   still the 
question remains unanswered by leadership but instead we just talk about 
powwow beads like the bigger and more important discussion never took place. 
How nice it would be if we could all just forget and ignore that there is a 
potential abuse going on that is being so easily being brushed over and 
therefore forgotten about.

That is what the leadership wants, for it to all just disappear and everyone 
act like not a thing happened on the list this week.  All sweetness and 
innocence.  No one then has to make hard decissions and no one has to stand 
up for lawful behavior and activity.  Maybe I could walk into my local yarn 
store or crafts shop one of these days and say, "I've always wanted to work 
with this pattern, I'm not paying for it so I'll just walk out the door. 
I'm blind and entitled to it for free. It isn't important that I'm stealing 
from someone."  Oh yes, my friend 2 doors down has a big beautiful 2 carrot 
diamond ring and I've always wanted one of them too. While I'm looking for 
things I want and just feel entitled to because I'm blind and life can be 
hard at times I think I'll just take that beautiful ring as well.  You may 
have a hard time associating this type of theft with copyright infringements 
but it is the exact same thing.  Is the entire board taking a seat on the 
pity pot?  Can't a single one of you, other than Audrey,  stand up and do 
the right & lawful thing?

As a division of the NFB, an organization that is supposed to support blind 
people in their life persuits & goals, the board as a whole has shown 
themselves to all be poor examples & bad roll models as the representatives. 
What a disgrace of a division and how poorly you have treated a person, me 
as well as other instructors who are not saying you can walk off with my 
materials. You have gotten help and support from many on this list who you 
are showing a total lack of respect for.  There is no question in my mind 
that if any answers to my email get addressed they will be the things I' 
stated about the NFB KK board, still the lawful questions will remain 
unanswered and unaddressed.

Eileen

Eileen

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From: "Henrietta Brewer" <gary.brewer at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 2:33 PM
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Extremely Dissapointed

> If you really think you need to unsubscribe then you should go ahead and 
> do that. But, in my opinion, you will be the looser.
>
> I have been a member from almost the beginning. We have had a few tiny 
> disagreements before but nothing that caused an uproar like this. This is 
> good reason to stay. You did join at a time that might make you feel 
> uncomfortable, but give it some time. You can just get rid of the email 
> after reading if you feel a need. But  actually, I think you will find 
> yourself enjoying the group. I am sure things will go back to normal soon.
>
> This is a new group. No one really has a lot of training in this kind of 
> work. And, yes, the board does work at making the group work. You will 
> find that even with these growing pains, our members are good people. They 
> will prove it to you if you just give them a chance.
>
> But do what your heart tells you.  I am not political or determined to 
> make my wishes rule, I would rather sit back and let the group teach me 
> new crafting ideas. But if everyone is like me, there would be no group.
>
> My crafting abilities are not good enough to worry that someone would 
> steal my ideas and profit from them. Well, come to think about it, I sent 
> out an email with three or four activities to do with children all summer. 
> My back ground as a Early Childhood teacher has taught me to give away all 
> my ideas. Not a socially excepted idea in these days of computer sites.  I 
> never thought about writing a book to sell. I have, however, written many 
> plans and offered many classes to others at no cost.  So I am not someone 
> who would even think to worry about what the group did with my info.  That 
> doesn't make me right.  Just puts me in a catagory.
>
> Let the group work this out. Stay around to see how the outcomes fits your 
> beliefs and then make your decision.
>
> I have surely learned more then I have given here.
> Henrietta
> On Jan 8, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Yvonne Alaniz wrote:
>
>> I am a first time member of Krafters Korners and the NFB.  After reading 
>> all the messages reguarding recording and taping I plan to unsub from 
>> this list and will not be renewing my membership with this group or any 
>> other associated with the nfb if this is how things are handled.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Yvonne Alaniz
>>
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