[Nfb-krafters-korner] Some Thoughts

[Gail Smith]

Hi Laurie!

So, you edit out the students.  ?  Do the teachers not matter?

The Krafters Korner is such a nice group of people.  It is very sad that the 
problems that have arisen is not being addressed.

This whole question of using the recordings without permission in a way that 
was not meant for is not going away.  It is continuing to grow and cause a 
big problem in the Krafters Korner group.

It is sad when the teachers have to worry about protecting the recordings 
and their own documents, such as lessons, from the leaders of the group!

Gail




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurie Porter" <freespirit1 at tds.net>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Some Thoughts


When I had the idea about selling the recordings in mind, I realized that
people in the classes might not want others to hear the questions, listen to
the chit chat and/or small talk that happens at the classes etc so they
would be edited  out along with the big gaps in the class when everyone is
working. ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Some Thoughts


>I agree with this.  There is something about a recording that could be sold
> or distributed far and wide that would make most people very guarded about
> asking questions, and if they ask, how would they phrase the question to
> assist anyone else who might have the same or related question?  It is
> good
> to be careful when phrasing a question, but a formal class on display is
> actually more of a performance than a class, like an infomercial.
> I look at the recordings as something that can help the people in the
> recording or even the instructor, who would use it to improve in teaching
> methods, but normally not something sold.
> Ok, now you can shoot holes in my logic...*smile*
> --le
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Henrietta Brewer" <gary.brewer at comcast.net>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 6:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Some Thoughts
>
>
> We also have to remember that when members of the class talk on the
> recordings they become part of the situation. When I am struggling with a
> craft and ask lots of questions and feel as though I sound dumb I am doing
> it thinking that the info will be given to only those at the class. It
> might
> be harder for members of a class to ask questions if they are concerned
> about the recording being distributed to others.
>
> This is just a thought. Please take this message as something to think
> about. I don't have answers, just lots of questions.
> Henrietta
> On Jan 9, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Lucy Cox wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have been reading the messages concerning the recordings lately. It
>> seems reasonable that teachers be able to maintain the rights to their
>> materials if they choose. It would seem that unless each teacher signed
>> an
>> agreement expressly giving KK the rights, then it would remain the
>> property of the teacher. It is also understandable that the division
>> would
>> like to share the wealth of knowledge in these recordings. Maybe as a
>> compromise, there could be an additional line added to the proposal that
>> teachers fill out asking if they are willing to let KK have the rights to
>> the class recording and documents.  If the teacher agrees to relinquish
>> the rights to KK, then that particular class would be available for
>> future
>> sale and distribution. If not, then the students who can make it to that
>> class benefit and the teacher is still making a contribution. KK could go
>> through previous classes and obtain agreements with those instructors to
>> acquire the rights. This would create some extra work for someone, but it
>> would resolve this issue and all participants would be legally protected.
>>
>> This may not be the most ideal solution, but hopefully it can be the
>> beginning to an open and respectful dialog to resolving it.
>>
>> Krafters Korner is a valuable resource and we have to ensure that it
>> remains so for blind crafters and teachers alike.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Lucy
>>
>> septembergirl95 at gmail.com
>>
>> A true friend is someone who thinks that you are a good egg even though
>> he
>> knows that you are slightly cracked.
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