[Nfb-krafters-korner] Some Thoughts

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hey, Gail,

That's a  great one.  Yes, okay on all the classes where I was the teacher I 
don't give away my rights to those materials so just edit out every thing I 
had to say in them and what's left?  Doesn't the instructor's permission & 
signing a release matter at all here.  Thanks for a good chuckle.

Eileen

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From: "Gail Smith" <mail.gailsmith at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:24 PM
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Some Thoughts

> Hi Laurie!
>
> So, you edit out the students.  ?  Do the teachers not matter?
>
> The Krafters Korner is such a nice group of people.  It is very sad that 
> the
> problems that have arisen is not being addressed.
>
> This whole question of using the recordings without permission in a way 
> that
> was not meant for is not going away.  It is continuing to grow and cause a
> big problem in the Krafters Korner group.
>
> It is sad when the teachers have to worry about protecting the recordings
> and their own documents, such as lessons, from the leaders of the group!
>
> Gail
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Laurie Porter" <freespirit1 at tds.net>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Some Thoughts
>
>
> When I had the idea about selling the recordings in mind, I realized that
> people in the classes might not want others to hear the questions, listen 
> to
> the chit chat and/or small talk that happens at the classes etc so they
> would be edited  out along with the big gaps in the class when everyone is
> working. ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 8:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Some Thoughts
>
>
>>I agree with this.  There is something about a recording that could be 
>>sold
>> or distributed far and wide that would make most people very guarded 
>> about
>> asking questions, and if they ask, how would they phrase the question to
>> assist anyone else who might have the same or related question?  It is
>> good
>> to be careful when phrasing a question, but a formal class on display is
>> actually more of a performance than a class, like an infomercial.
>> I look at the recordings as something that can help the people in the
>> recording or even the instructor, who would use it to improve in teaching
>> methods, but normally not something sold.
>> Ok, now you can shoot holes in my logic...*smile*
>> --le
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Henrietta Brewer" <gary.brewer at comcast.net>
>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 6:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Some Thoughts
>>
>>
>> We also have to remember that when members of the class talk on the
>> recordings they become part of the situation. When I am struggling with a
>> craft and ask lots of questions and feel as though I sound dumb I am 
>> doing
>> it thinking that the info will be given to only those at the class. It
>> might
>> be harder for members of a class to ask questions if they are concerned
>> about the recording being distributed to others.
>>
>> This is just a thought. Please take this message as something to think
>> about. I don't have answers, just lots of questions.
>> Henrietta
>> On Jan 9, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Lucy Cox wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I have been reading the messages concerning the recordings lately. It
>>> seems reasonable that teachers be able to maintain the rights to their
>>> materials if they choose. It would seem that unless each teacher signed
>>> an
>>> agreement expressly giving KK the rights, then it would remain the
>>> property of the teacher. It is also understandable that the division
>>> would
>>> like to share the wealth of knowledge in these recordings. Maybe as a
>>> compromise, there could be an additional line added to the proposal that
>>> teachers fill out asking if they are willing to let KK have the rights 
>>> to
>>> the class recording and documents.  If the teacher agrees to relinquish
>>> the rights to KK, then that particular class would be available for
>>> future
>>> sale and distribution. If not, then the students who can make it to that
>>> class benefit and the teacher is still making a contribution. KK could 
>>> go
>>> through previous classes and obtain agreements with those instructors to
>>> acquire the rights. This would create some extra work for someone, but 
>>> it
>>> would resolve this issue and all participants would be legally 
>>> protected.
>>>
>>> This may not be the most ideal solution, but hopefully it can be the
>>> beginning to an open and respectful dialog to resolving it.
>>>
>>> Krafters Korner is a valuable resource and we have to ensure that it
>>> remains so for blind crafters and teachers alike.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Lucy
>>>
>>> septembergirl95 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> A true friend is someone who thinks that you are a good egg even though
>>> he
>>> knows that you are slightly cracked.
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