[Nfb-krafters-korner] KK constitution and voting

Fri May 13 18:14:47 UTC 2011

I am just now getting to emails for the day, hopefully, I am reading them in
the correct order.

First, Audrey, I see how you are saying that the no proxy only pertains to
elections. It has been my experience with the NFB in various
affiliates/state/chapter and positions on boards, that no proxy voting is
allowed on any issue. Now, that being said, I tried to locate the National
constitution on the web and only came up with a 2003 version. In that
version, the no proxy was again related to elections. The 2003 (as amended
1986) version was before my joining the NFB and I seem to recall some
revision having taken place after 2005.

Second, I have asked Joyce if there is someone that we can contact at
National to clarify the no proxy voting for issues other than elections. Our
constitution must always follow the governing rules of National as stated in
the National constitution.

Cindy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> AUDREY WELLNER
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 3:43 AM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] KK constitution and voting
> 
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> 
> Cindy, 
>    I don't see how the statement "may be polled" has anything 
> to do with this issue. I made a statement concerning the "No 
> proxy voting". They're not the same thing. Are you saying 
> that because it only says "Members", we are now making an 
> issue that only "certain" members will be contacted. 
>    I really don't want to start another issue here but seeing 
> that you choose to put this out on the list serve and not 
> contact me privately I'll answer the last part of your email 
> publicly. 
>    You state:
>  
> If the membership is trying to exclude someone, please do let 
> me know and I will personally get in touch with that person 
> to make sure they vote if they so choose to use that right.
>    This is the statement that I received:
> 
> I am sorry you have to be absent for this meeting.  I am 
> sorry that your vote will not be counted as you have to be 
> present to have your vote counted.
>    
>    I am not going to go into details about why I could not be 
> present because of having to attend a town meeting to protect 
> my real estate valuation and property rights and why I think 
> that was a great deal more important than ownership of 
> "nonexclusive" teachers private property rights of their 
> teaching materials but because this was not a vote concerning 
> officers position I think my vote should have been allowed to 
> be counted.
>    I don't feel that this statement was necessary under the 
> circumstances and I'm really not up to starting another big 
> issue on this list. 
>    I've been silent for quite a while and as most women who 
> are mothers know sometimes its the best solution for everyone 
> involved. 
>    Do whatever you see fit to do with this Cindy. I was just 
> trying to claify a point--not start a big discussion. I have 
> nothing further to say. I'll go back to my little hole now. 
>      Good night,
>     Audrey Wellner
>  
>  
> --- On Fri, 5/13/11, slerythema <slerythema at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: slerythema <slerythema at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] KK constitution and voting
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 2:19 AM
> 
> 
> Audrey,
> 
> The words "may be polled" does not indicate that every member 
> has to be contacted and vote. 
> 
> Additionally, the ten days notice is for "Special meetings," 
> we are not conducting a meeting and that section was brought 
> up specifically to make sure that we give "no less" than ten 
> days for voting to occur even though that is not required. 
> Also, "I" specifically placed a note asking the membership to 
> help us get the word out. If the membership is trying to 
> exclude someone, please do let me know and I will personally 
> get in touch with that person to make sure they vote if they 
> so choose to use that right.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> > AUDREY WELLNER
> > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 1:50 AM
> > To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] KK constitution and voting
> > 
> > 
> > Cindy,
> >    I think you'll find that the "No Proxy Voting" strictly 
> > refers to Article V: Officers and Their Duties in our 
> > Constitution where it pertains to the elections of officers 
> > for the two year terms of the top 4 positions, President, 
> > First and Second Vice President, Secretary and Treasurer. 
> >    It says Officers shall be elected by a majority vote of 
> > the active members present and voting. There shall be "no 
> > proxy voting" (on these particular positions).
> >    Section One - Regular meetings: goes on to say that - 
> > Members may be polled by telephone, mail ballot, or by email 
> > on any question, except elections and Constitutional Amendments. 
> >    It also says in Section Two - Special Meetings that 
> > members are to be notified by mail and/or email at least ten 
> > days in advance of any special meeting that has been called, 
> > therefore reinforcing the need to notify any absent member by 
> > telephone, mail ballot, or email of any special question that 
> > has to be voted on providing them with a platform for 
> > answering as in Section One any poll to be decided on by 
> > telephone, mail ballot, or email, with the exception of an 
> > election or Constitutional Amendments for which your presence 
> > is required. 
> >      Audrey Wellner, Secretary
> >      NFB Krafters Korner division
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 5/12/11, slerythema <slerythema at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: slerythema <slerythema at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] KK constitution and voting
> > To: "Krafters listserv" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 9:30 PM
> > 
> > 
> > Once the constitution is coded, it will be available on our
> > website. However, I wanted to make sure that current members 
> > have a copy. I believe it was posted to the list originally 
> > some time after it was adopted.
> > 
> > Please note that proxy voting is not allowed (this is across
> > all NFB national, state, and local divisions and chapters).
> > 
> > Again, if you know of anyone that may not see the notice on
> > the listserv, please pass along the alternate voting options 
> > once the official poll is posted.
> > 
> > Cindy Sheets, 1st Vice President
> > NFB Krafters Division
> > 
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