[Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - creative or crazy

Sun Feb 17 22:55:20 UTC 2013

This whole thing began because of our discussion of the new camera system for people with rp. I think we are a special group. the eye condition effects more about us then just our vision. 

Have you ever met a person with RP who isn't creative? I don't think I have. 

About the dreaming. It will come back vividly after the change of life begins. So just wait patiently. lol
Henrieta
On Feb 17, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Deidre Muccio wrote:

> Linda and others
> There has been a lot written about this type of phenomenon in those who have
> lost their sight. With RP, I too have been through a lot of this. At this
> point, the longer I have been without even a scrap of vision, the more bland
> my dreams and other mental states reflect anything resembling what I used to
> see. On the other hand, the senses overlap, so with everything I hear or
> touch, it's as if I am seeing it; it gets mapped out, perhaps even more
> practically than with vision. Only thing is that the silent views of a
> dancer or actress on stage, or mountain peaks in the distance, will forever
> be lost on me, whereas I may be the only one who perceives the crackle in
> distant grass or a dog bark miles away.
> 		Things all around us make an impression. You can't imagine
> how often I have had to tell people "I am conscious" in response to their
> screaming out "stop, "there is a curb coming up" as they see me briskly
> trucking up the street. 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of River Woman
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:18 AM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - WAS: OT dreams
> 
> we are all a little crazy, I think.
> Yes, my brain puts on little shows for me, too.
> I might be sitting at a table with other people, and I will ahve to close my
> eyes for awhile because I am not seeing the people at all, but I am watching
> animations of scenes and people - that has nothing to do with where I am or
> who I am with. I see like this a lot - my brain shows me little video type
> of glimpses of moments of animated characters all the time. Who could ever
> understand that if I spoke it around someone who does not have sight loss? 
> Yes, they would think for sure, I am brain damaged, too. well, sort of.  lol
> My brain sees just fine, it is the connection from my eyes to the brain that
> has passed away - the optic nerve.
> 
> I cannot imagine how you played the piano like that - you have to have a
> photographic mind.  I have trouble remembering the line I am on in my
> knitting pattern.
> 
> OK, back to my sock now. Have a fun day!
> Lynda
> 
> Lynda Lambert
> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> Village of Wurtemburg, PA 16117
> 
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> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - WAS: OT dreams
> 
> 
>> Hi Linda,
>> 
>> I totally get what you are talking about with being able to resolve 
>> problems
>> in your dreams.  I too have figured out problems with patterns and math
>> problems in my sleep.  When I was writing computer code, I could find the
>> errors in my code while I slept.    Despite being visually impaired all of
>> my life I am a visual learner.  When I could see enough to read piano 
>> music
>> with a magnifier, I would memorize note by note for the right hand, and 
>> then
>> note by note for the left hand.  Once I had that line memorized and could
>> play the 2 hands together, I'd move on to the next line.  If at any point 
>> in
>> the future I got stuck in the middle of a piece, I could recall that 
>> measure
>> or line in my head and re-learn that part.
>> 
>> Now that I no longer have color perception and a very limited spotted 
>> field
>> of vision, my brain thinks it sees things.  I often have to keep my eyes
>> closed to make my brain concentrate on what my other senses are taking in.
>> 
>> I have definite ideas, thoughts and feelings about color and how and when 
>> to
>> use color.  After being in a room I get a feeling of what color it should
>> be.  This drives my family crazy.  Sometimes this drives me crazy too. 
>> For
>> example, I have a coat that is black and I have to constantly remind 
>> myself
>> of that.  When I touch it my brain imagines that it is burgundy with a lot
>> of red in it.  Kind of like a stage curtain.
>> 
>> As much as I love color, I get frustrated with incorporating multiple 
>> colors
>> into my crafts.  I try to put colors together based on other people's
>> descriptions.  I hate when I have a finished project and someone asks me 
>> why
>> did I put those colors together, or says, that is an interesting mix of
>> colors.  I've limited myself to solid colored projects that incorporate
>> texture.  I'm giving a serious look at the various yarns that have very 
>> long
>> lengths of color that make stripes without the hassle of having to weave 
>> in
>> the ends.  Another reason why I run away from changing colors in a 
>> project.
>> 
>> Annette
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of River Woman
>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 8:40 AM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT dreams
>> 
>> OMG, Joyce, you are a BIG DREAMER - who are you kidding?  I mean, let's 
>> just
>> expand the idea of what a dream is - you are a wide awake, walking, 
>> living
>> dreamer.
>> 
>> I dream constantly - all I have to do is close my eyes, and in moments I 
>> am
>> off to places and situations. My dreams are always full of DRAMA...never 
>> the
>> kind of dreams that you want to close your eyes and go back to sleep and 
>> try
>> to resurrect.
>> 
>> But, have any of you every been wrestling with a craft or art problem you
>> could not solve? And, then, in a dream, you see yourself doing it and you
>> wake up knowing exactly how to do something you never did before? I sure
>> have.  I have figured out knitting problems in m sleep, and I even learned
>> math concepts that I had a hard time with, in my dream. (I learned how to 
>> do
>> "slope" in algebra that way, when my conscious mind could not "get it."
>> I dream for ideas - sometimes I wake up and write down things I am seeing 
>> in
>> my dreams - poems come that way to me at times.
>> 
>> I think we have such a creative mind, all of us, that dreams are a
>> continuation of our creative self.
>> 
>> Lynda
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:05 AM
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT dreams
>> 
>> 
>>> When I first lost my sight 15 years ago I did not dream.  It took a  bit
>>> more then 2 years before I started to dream once again.
>>> 
>>> I felt, looking back,  that it must have been due to   concentrating so
>>> much on minute to minute, day to day.  I couldn't think  about the future
>>> as I
>>> didn't have any idea what future I would have or how it  would be.
>>> 
>>> Well dreams came and started with familiar thoughts and surroundings to
>>> begin with.
>>> 
>>> Then it seemed to be stuck when I worked in the hospital and doctor's
>>> office before I went in for my surgery and woke up blind.
>>> 
>>> Dreams and ideas are back from time to time.
>>> 
>>> Henrietta, I will tell you this between the steroid medication, inhalers
>>> and occasional Advil, that leaves me wide open for some weird and funny
>>> dreams.
>>> 
> 
> 
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