[Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - creative or crazy

Tue Feb 19 19:08:48 UTC 2013

Even though I have never had good sight and my sight is gradually going down hill, through out my life, I have always said, I would always rather be blind than deaf.
Sight can be replased with description and fealing, and even hearing, but what would we do with out music, voice, the sound of a stream...

Terry P.

-----Original Message-----
From: Henrietta Brewer [mailto:gary.brewer at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:55 PM
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - creative or crazy

This whole thing began because of our discussion of the new camera system for people with rp. I think we are a special group. the eye condition effects more about us then just our vision. 

Have you ever met a person with RP who isn't creative? I don't think I have. 

About the dreaming. It will come back vividly after the change of life begins. So just wait patiently. lol Henrieta On Feb 17, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Deidre Muccio wrote:

> Linda and others
> There has been a lot written about this type of phenomenon in those 
> who have lost their sight. With RP, I too have been through a lot of 
> this. At this point, the longer I have been without even a scrap of 
> vision, the more bland my dreams and other mental states reflect 
> anything resembling what I used to see. On the other hand, the senses 
> overlap, so with everything I hear or touch, it's as if I am seeing 
> it; it gets mapped out, perhaps even more practically than with 
> vision. Only thing is that the silent views of a dancer or actress on 
> stage, or mountain peaks in the distance, will forever be lost on me, 
> whereas I may be the only one who perceives the crackle in distant grass or a dog bark miles away.
> 		Things all around us make an impression. You can't imagine how often 
> I have had to tell people "I am conscious" in response to their 
> screaming out "stop, "there is a curb coming up" as they see me 
> briskly trucking up the street.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner 
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River 
> Woman
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:18 AM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - WAS: OT 
> dreams
> 
> we are all a little crazy, I think.
> Yes, my brain puts on little shows for me, too.
> I might be sitting at a table with other people, and I will ahve to 
> close my eyes for awhile because I am not seeing the people at all, 
> but I am watching animations of scenes and people - that has nothing 
> to do with where I am or who I am with. I see like this a lot - my 
> brain shows me little video type of glimpses of moments of animated 
> characters all the time. Who could ever understand that if I spoke it around someone who does not have sight loss?
> Yes, they would think for sure, I am brain damaged, too. well, sort 
> of.  lol My brain sees just fine, it is the connection from my eyes to 
> the brain that has passed away - the optic nerve.
> 
> I cannot imagine how you played the piano like that - you have to have 
> a photographic mind.  I have trouble remembering the line I am on in 
> my knitting pattern.
> 
> OK, back to my sock now. Have a fun day!
> Lynda
> 
> Lynda Lambert
> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> Village of Wurtemburg, PA 16117
> 
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> http://www.walkingbyinnervision.blogspot.com
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Visualization & Color - WAS: OT 
> dreams
> 
> 
>> Hi Linda,
>> 
>> I totally get what you are talking about with being able to resolve 
>> problems in your dreams.  I too have figured out problems with 
>> patterns and math problems in my sleep.  When I was writing computer 
>> code, I could find the
>> errors in my code while I slept.    Despite being visually impaired all of
>> my life I am a visual learner.  When I could see enough to read piano 
>> music with a magnifier, I would memorize note by note for the right 
>> hand, and then note by note for the left hand.  Once I had that line 
>> memorized and could play the 2 hands together, I'd move on to the 
>> next line.  If at any point in the future I got stuck in the middle 
>> of a piece, I could recall that measure or line in my head and 
>> re-learn that part.
>> 
>> Now that I no longer have color perception and a very limited spotted 
>> field of vision, my brain thinks it sees things.  I often have to 
>> keep my eyes closed to make my brain concentrate on what my other 
>> senses are taking in.
>> 
>> I have definite ideas, thoughts and feelings about color and how and 
>> when to use color.  After being in a room I get a feeling of what 
>> color it should be.  This drives my family crazy.  Sometimes this 
>> drives me crazy too.
>> For
>> example, I have a coat that is black and I have to constantly remind 
>> myself of that.  When I touch it my brain imagines that it is 
>> burgundy with a lot of red in it.  Kind of like a stage curtain.
>> 
>> As much as I love color, I get frustrated with incorporating multiple 
>> colors into my crafts.  I try to put colors together based on other 
>> people's descriptions.  I hate when I have a finished project and 
>> someone asks me why did I put those colors together, or says, that is 
>> an interesting mix of colors.  I've limited myself to solid colored 
>> projects that incorporate texture.  I'm giving a serious look at the 
>> various yarns that have very long lengths of color that make stripes 
>> without the hassle of having to weave in the ends.  Another reason 
>> why I run away from changing colors in a project.
>> 
>> Annette
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner 
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of River Woman
>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 8:40 AM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT dreams
>> 
>> OMG, Joyce, you are a BIG DREAMER - who are you kidding?  I mean, 
>> let's just expand the idea of what a dream is - you are a wide awake, 
>> walking, living dreamer.
>> 
>> I dream constantly - all I have to do is close my eyes, and in 
>> moments I am off to places and situations. My dreams are always full 
>> of DRAMA...never the kind of dreams that you want to close your eyes 
>> and go back to sleep and try to resurrect.
>> 
>> But, have any of you every been wrestling with a craft or art problem 
>> you could not solve? And, then, in a dream, you see yourself doing it 
>> and you wake up knowing exactly how to do something you never did 
>> before? I sure have.  I have figured out knitting problems in m 
>> sleep, and I even learned math concepts that I had a hard time with, 
>> in my dream. (I learned how to do "slope" in algebra that way, when 
>> my conscious mind could not "get it."
>> I dream for ideas - sometimes I wake up and write down things I am 
>> seeing in my dreams - poems come that way to me at times.
>> 
>> I think we have such a creative mind, all of us, that dreams are a 
>> continuation of our creative self.
>> 
>> Lynda
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:05 AM
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT dreams
>> 
>> 
>>> When I first lost my sight 15 years ago I did not dream.  It took a  
>>> bit more then 2 years before I started to dream once again.
>>> 
>>> I felt, looking back,  that it must have been due to   concentrating so
>>> much on minute to minute, day to day.  I couldn't think  about the 
>>> future as I didn't have any idea what future I would have or how it  
>>> would be.
>>> 
>>> Well dreams came and started with familiar thoughts and surroundings 
>>> to begin with.
>>> 
>>> Then it seemed to be stuck when I worked in the hospital and 
>>> doctor's office before I went in for my surgery and woke up blind.
>>> 
>>> Dreams and ideas are back from time to time.
>>> 
>>> Henrietta, I will tell you this between the steroid medication, 
>>> inhalers and occasional Advil, that leaves me wide open for some 
>>> weird and funny dreams.
>>> 
> 
> 
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