[Nfb-seniors] Nfb-seniors Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12

Tue Nov 25 16:34:04 UTC 2014

...I now use the "voice over" programs already embedded within the Apple/Mac products. This decision was made a few years ago after using jaws f/windows for nearly 20 years. I well new how to use jafws but also the problems and ongoing expenses. Though Apple products tend to be a bit more expensive initially , it is actually less expensive in the long run. I really contemplated whether I wanted to spend the time, effort and frustration of learning a new system but am glad I did. I'm not particularly techy so learning a new system is not intuitive for me...still learning but have the time since I'm retired. You might want to look into Apple products...one of my younger friends is determined to get me into this decade and says she will help me learn how to use a I - phone...this will be a big jump for me from my comfort zone of using a flip phone. Good luck in deciding what's best for you... I understand how difficult it is to learn some new technology and don't approach it without a lot of pondering knowing what is involved in the changes...I hope each of you have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Dianne
On Nov 25, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Mike Freeman via Nfb-seniors wrote:

> Bern:
> 
> Believe me, I understand about managing expenses with a slim wallet. Candor
> impels me, however, to point out that there's a trade-off for not upgrading
> one's screen-reader: even if you don't change, the computer environment
> does, both in terms of software and in terms of the Internet (web content
> and constructs, etc.). Unless you live in a cuccoon, sooner or later you
> will find there are web pages that can't be properly interpreted by your
> browser and your screen-reader because, like Omar Khayam's moving finger,
> the computer environment has moved on. I don't know why this is such a
> difficult concept for many blind folks to grasp: I suppose it's more
> comforting to blame everything on Big Bad Corporations, i.e., screen-reader
> manufacturers.
> 
> I'm not saying everyone should upgrade although I make it a practice to do
> so. What I am saying is that, by making the choice to stay static, you are
> limiting your opportunities.
> 
> I think it's also fair to say that NVDA works under some circumstances that
> JAWS and WE can't handle and vice versa.
> 
> We plan to go over to one of my wife's uncles place for Thanksgiving. It's
> always a potluck and my wife is bringing pies -- she is known for her
> desserts.
> 
> Happy Holidays, all.
> 
> Mike
> 
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> From: Nfb-seniors [mailto:nfb-seniors-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Nfb-seniors
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:35 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Nfb-seniors] Nfb-seniors Digest, Vol 65, Issue 12
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> Hey Valerie:  As for screen readers, I've done JHAWS since 1995. I've played
> around with Window Eyes, but for some reason, can't seem to get it very
> well.  Can't stand NVDA.  Just because it's free, doesn't mean it works for
> me.  I've just never been real crazy about it.  Yeah, I guess some of us
> folks don't like change.  It's easier to stay with what I've had since dirt.
> Don't do change if I don't have to.  I don't always upgrade though because
> they think I should and they want what little money I have...
> 
> 
> As for Thanksgiving, We're going to Bill's Mom and Step-Dad's.  Been baking
> like a fiend in between laundry loads.  Other than that, everyone's just
> great around here.  Getting everything ready to go. In case I don't get on
> again, all you guys have a Blessed Thanksgiving!!!  
> Believe it or not, Thanksgiving is actually my favorite holiday.  I think we
> should be thankful year-round.  I guess that's why I like it.  
> Not because of the food.  To be perfectly honest, Turkey is too dry for me.
> I simply tolerate it because it's there.  I'm a ham lady myself.  
> My dad didn't like turkey either.  He'd go out and hunt for a deer and Mom
> would cook up some deer meat.  Yummmmeeee!!!  Nothing like some good old
> sausage!!
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>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
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>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors" 
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>>> Hello all!  It?s been quiet  here!      How is everyone?    Getting ready
>>> for Thanksgiving?    Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
> Sincerely,
>>> Linda
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>> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:46:19 +1030
>> From: "Valerie" <rosetta at adam.com.au>
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>> Hello Linda,  We don't have Thanksgiving here in Aus, but it is getting
> busier with Christmas so close.  I am hoping it will not be too hot on
> Christmas day, but if it is, we shall all be outdoors  on the back verandah
> enjoying lunch.   I guess most on the list will have a cool Christmas.
>> 
>> I am thinking about a new screen reader programme or other possiblitlies,
> what is everyone using on their computer,  I have, at present, zoomtext
> speech.
>> 
>> Cheers to everyone on list.
>> Valerie
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-seniors [mailto:nfb-seniors-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
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>> To: NFB Senior Division list; Lin H.
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>> Everything is fine here in Baltimore,Md
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>> Eric L Welch
>> On Nov 23, 2014 8:55 AM, "Lin H. via Nfb-seniors" 
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>>> Hello all!  It?s been quiet  here!      How is everyone?    Getting ready
>>> for Thanksgiving?    Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
> Sincerely,
>>> Linda
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