[NFB-Seniors] To our newest members - RE: New member

Wed Oct 14 00:56:19 UTC 2020

Yes, I've heard all these people talk about having somebody to go around 
with the, and sit in class and take notes for them.  And I wonder what it's 
worth.  Why can't they take their own notes?  I ran around school myself, 
and I'm totally blind.  Teachers said they would let me out of class five 
minutes early so I could get to my next class, but they kept forgetting. 
So, I just let them forget, and got out in the halls with everybody else.  I 
actually didn't have a cane for part of the time.  I have had arguments with 
people who talk about provisions that have to be made for them when they are 
working; and the ones they are talking about are things they don't need, 
because they could learn to do them themselves.  And they use ADA when they 
don't need it to justify their arguments.  I remember after I lost my job, 
and I went back to Helen Keller Services, which used to be the industrial 
Home for the Blind.  There was all kinds of noise in the clerical room, with 
everybody's screenreaders blasting out through the speakers.  When I told 
them they had to learn how to work quietly on a job, some of them told me: 
"Well, they have to let me do it like this as an accommodation of the ADA! 
When I worked, I had everything coming out of my headphones.  I actually had 
my brother make me a little box with jacks and volume controls so I could 
patch everything in together.  But even if people didn't have that, they had 
those split headphones, or some people used two pairs of them.  But some 
people think that everybody has to make special accommodations for them that 
aren't necessary.  No wonder a lot of people don't get jobs!  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jody ianuzzi via NFB-Seniors
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:38 PM
To: NFB Senior Division list
Cc: Jody ianuzzi
Subject: Re: [NFB-Seniors] To our newest members - RE: New member

Hi Judy,

Well I do think that we did become more independent and resourceful as a 
result of having to do everything ourselves. Yes, I remember having to go to 
the English department to find out what books I would need for the next 
semester classes so that I could order them on real to real tape from RSVP. 
When I asked the lady at the desk what books would be used for the class she 
told me oh the list is over there on the bulletin board. Duh

No students don’t have to do any of that legwork. It is all done for them. 
They are provided escorts to class no takers and special accommodations for 
tests.  I think the consequence of this is that they don’t learn the 
independence that we did learn. They go off to their first job expecting all 
kinds of accommodations.

What is frustrating is that the unemployment among blind people is still 
70%. The accommodations and social attitudes might have changed but I’m 
afraid the independence and self-reliance level has decreased to the point 
where people are finding it hard to keep a job.

Yes, I still have one of those APH handy cassette players also.  I was not 
as lucky as you to learn braille as a child. I graduated from high school 
being able to read it a second grade level. I did finally complete the 
Hadley course in UAB three years ago and I have my certificate hanging on 
the wall in my living room. Rather late than never

JODY

To Boldly Go  🖖🏻

thunderwalker321 at gmail.com

"What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik 
Weihenmayer

> On Oct 12, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Judy Jones via NFB-Seniors 
> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi, Jody,
>
> Those were the days when you had to find out which service had your text 
> books, maybe NBP, maybe Recordings For The Blind, maybe APH, maybe 
> Clovernook, and on and on and on.  Plus telling your profs that you needed 
> their books list early, as the book store didn't yet have it, only to find 
> out that the class had changed who was going to teach and that they might 
> have different books, and so on.
>
> I found lots of cooperation in helping me get my books, and understanding 
> if they were late.  Lots of legwork, but lots of understanding staff and 
> profs.
>
> You were your own accommodation with your own ideas and solutions.
>
> I found it to be hard work, but lots of good support.
>
> My parents also helped on the backend ordering, once I did the initial 
> stuff.  I had books in braille and on reel-to-reel.  Remember those sony 
> 4-track recorders?  I bought mine from another student for $120 and still 
> have it in good working order.
>
> I took notes with slate and stylus just as quickly as those students using 
> a pen, and used spiral notebooks purchased, you guessed it, at the book 
> store.  The braille held up years after I was out of college.  I had a 
> notebook for each class.
>
> I remember once in a trek across campus, I had probably a 12 block walk at 
> most, the elastic broke in my cane, and I was closest to the foreign 
> language office.  So the cane and I straggled in and I borrowed tape from 
> the secretary's desk to hold the cane together long enough to get me back 
> to the dorm which then was only about three blocks further.
>
> Judy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFB-Seniors <nfb-seniors-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jody 
> ianuzzi via NFB-Seniors
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 4:27 PM
> To: NFB Senior Division list <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jody ianuzzi <thunderwalker321 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFB-Seniors] To our newest members - RE: New member
>
> Hello Robert,
>
> Thank you very much for the welcome! I think that one thing that we all 
> have in common as seniors is that we remember a time before the ADA, I DEA 
> in the rehab act of 1973. Back in the olden days we remember a time when 
> you either got by or got out and there was very little accommodation for 
> us.  I must confess I am very envious of all of the assistance that 
> students get nowadays. Oh how my life would’ve been so much different if I 
> could’ve gotten the same accommodations.
>
> What do you all think about this?
>
> JODY
>
> To Boldly Go  🖖🏻
>
>
> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>
> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS 
> Erik Weihenmayer
>
>> On Oct 12, 2020, at 7:18 PM, Robert Leslie Newman via NFB-Seniors 
>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Les and Jody!
>>
>> Welcome to the NFB Seniors Division's list. Here we share what we know 
>> and feel, and infite others to also tel how it is that they do not allow 
>> blindness to stop us from living the life we want.
>> A catchy phrase - Live the life you want - yet it can be a tough goal to 
>> achieve; with knowing-friends, we have a better chance of success.
>>
>> I live in Omaha, Nebraska
>>
>> Respectfully yours,
>> Robert Leslie Newman
>> NFBN Senior Division, President
>> NFB Seniors Division, Second Vice President NFBN Omaha Chapter,
>> Secretary
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFB-Seniors [mailto:nfb-seniors-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Les Fitzpatrick via NFB-Seniors
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 5:54 PM
>> To: 'NFB Senior Division list' <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Les Fitzpatrick <lfitz50 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Seniors] New member
>>
>> Another new member I Am Les Fitzpatrick another member just signed up 
>> today, Hello Judy, I know you.
>>
>> Les fitzpatrickPiano Technician
>> Ham call K5FPT
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFB-Seniors <nfb-seniors-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>> Melanie Torrance via NFB-Seniors
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 2:48 PM
>> To: NFB Senior Division list <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Melanie Torrance <melanietorrance at icloud.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Seniors] New member
>>
>> Welcome Jody! So glad to meet you, and I hope you will find this group 
>> helpful to you in managing your diabetes. Let us know how we can help. 
>> P.S. I’m from SC.
>> Melanie
>>
>> Sent from Melanie's i phone
>>
>>>> On Oct 12, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Jody ianuzzi via NFB-Seniors 
>>>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Judy,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the welcome!
>>>
>>> JODY
>>>
>>> To Boldly Go  🖖🏻
>>>
>>>
>>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
>>> Erik Weihenmayer
>>>
>>>>> On Oct 12, 2020, at 5:28 PM, Judy Jones via NFB-Seniors 
>>>>> <nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Welcome, Jody!
>>>>
>>>> Judy from Sedro Woolley, WA.
>>>>
>>>> Judy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NFB-Seniors <nfb-seniors-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jody
>>>> ianuzzi via NFB-Seniors
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 2:26 PM
>>>> To: nfb-seniors at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Jody ianuzzi <thunderwalker321 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [NFB-Seniors] New member
>>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Jody Ianuzzi you’re from southwest corner of New Hampshire. Just wanted 
>>>> to say a quick hello.
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> JODY
>>>>
>>>> To Boldly Go  🖖🏻
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO
>>>> BARRIERS Erik Weihenmayer
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