[Nfb-web] : Web Design as a Career

Fri Mar 6 00:59:25 UTC 2009

Good evening,

I am not writing to disagree with what you have said.  However, I  
would like to know how NFB related web training is different than any  
other web development training that a student could receive from a  
university, college, o self education?

My thought is that NFB related web training should focus on the things  
that are not taught very well in other programs, primarily  
accessibility and usability.

Everett

On 5-Mar-09, at 6:14 PM, Peter Donahue wrote:

> Good afternoon everyone,
>
>    Joe's a great student. I had the pleasure of training him several  
> months
> ago. One idea would be a podcast to instruct students in the basics  
> of Web
> design.I've had multiple individuals urge me to start a Web Design  
> Podcast.
> Another would be via online conference rooms such as those operated by
> Talking Communities, EASI, and similar services. The Youth SLAM  
> isn't the
> only venue through which the federation could offer introductory and  
> later
> on advanced Web design training. Others have done it with a pretty  
> good
> degree of success. Our challenge would be to see what we can do to  
> build on
> what they have done and take it to the next level. This will be an  
> exciting
> endeavor in the coming year.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Orozco" <JOrozco at ysa.org>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] Web Design as a Career
>
>
> Never mind talking about it.  There is clearly a collection of good
> talent here.  Get a web site going and start teaching.  I'll be one of
> your first students.  If something formal is organized with the  
> Jernigan
> Institute later, great, but in the meantime, don't let time rob us  
> of a
> learning opportunity.
>
> Joe Orozco, Associate Grants Manager
> Youth Service America
> 1101 15th Street NW
> Suite 200
> Washington D.C. 20005
> Phone: 202-296-2992 Ext. 122
> E-Mail: jorozco at ysa.org
> www.ysa.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-web-bounces at nfbnet.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Peter Donahue
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:53 AM
> To: NFB Webmaster's List
> Subject: [Nfb-web] Web Design as a Career
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>    Following on with Arnold's comments this is something I've been
> thinking
> about for a while. Web Site Design and Management falls under  
> Technology
> in
> the STEM acronym we often hear discussed in conversations concerning  
> our
>
> science initiative. We have a Youth SLAM coming up this summer; a
> wonderful
> opportunity to introduce blind youngsters to the World of Web Site
> planning,
> design, construction, and management. Will a Web Design Track be a  
> part
> of
> this year's Youth SLAM Program? If you asked me it should be! Given  
> all
> of
> us who successfully build and manage Web sites for our affiliates and
> other
> entities and the all-ready rich amount of resources available to  
> assist
> blind Web developers we should be doing more to inspire more blind  
> youth
> to
> consider Web Development as a career.
>
>    Gary Wunder and I have had some correspondence concerning this
> matter. I
> believe one of the biggest issues to be resolved is how best to do  
> it. I
>
> suggested to him that a portion of this year's Webmasters Workshop be
> devoted to developing strategies as to how to inspire more blind  
> people
> to
> seriously consider becoming Web developers.
>
> In discussing building Web sites for some of our affiliates the
> question
> has been asked, "Whose going to fill your shoes" when you leave this
> World.
> Although I enjoy creating and servicing affiliate Web sites I  
> recognize
> that
> I'm not going to live forever. This and the all ready significant  
> number
> of
> blind Web professionals has lead me to believe that this is a career
> more
> blind individuals should give serious consideration and that we as a
> group
> should play a part in making that happen.
>
> I've given this matter some thought and have casually tried out some
> ideas
> for teaching particular concepts to other blind people. The NFB  
> Jernigan
>
> Institute doesn't run from a challenge. I'm hoping we can partner with
> them
> to develop new and innovative ways of instructing blind persons in Web
> site
> design and maintenance to ensure that our Web resources will  
> continue to
>
> grow and be cared for and to create new Web entities if and when  
> they're
>
> needed. I'll look forward to reading the feedback.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arnold Bailey" <arnoldbail at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Webmaster's List" <nfb-web at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-web] NFB-WEB Sandbox
>
>
> Mike.
>
> Thanks to Everett and yourself for the comments.
>
> My interest in Drupal is twofold.
>
>   1. Curiosity and to expand my knowledge.
>   2. I have this vision of creating a platform to draw blind and
> visually
>   impaired students into investigating programming as a career. It
> would be
>   great if it was at a national level; but, a chapter level is ok.  
> With
> 70%
>   unemployment in our community, there is obviously a great need. I
> must
>   admit, though, that, other than Peter D,, I've found zero support.
> But, I
>   can't give up the vision without feeling I've let down a lot of  
> kids.
> The
>   Drupal development platform and learning support activities that it
>   requires, I think, is a great learning mechanism.
>
> Arnold
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Michael Hansen <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Arnold,
>>
>> Everett is correct. My thought on the matter would be how much do you
>> want the ISP to take care of versus how much are you the Admin  
>> willing
>> to take care of?
>>
>> Mike
>> ---
>> Mike Hansen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:20 AM, E.J. Zufelt <everett at zufelt.ca>  
>> wrote:
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>> If the ISP supports mysQL and PHP it takes about 20 minutes to
> install
>>> Drupal for a hosting account.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Everett
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4-Mar-09, at 8:37 AM, Arnold Bailey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike,
>>>>
>>>> Very nice work. I did notice that in firefox the navigation side
> bar is
>>>> located into the center of the webmasters sandbox page. In IE it's
>>>> fine.
>>>>
>>>> One question I have. Is there any thoughts given to affiliate and
>> chapters
>>>> usage of drupal? It seems like it would make sense for the
> affiliate
>>>> and
>>>> chapters to pull a drupal theme and NFB applications and use them
> on
>> their
>>>> site, The problem is that drupal is not usually found on most ISPs.
> I
>>>> would
>>>> think that a single ISP that has drupal support would be cost
>> effectively
>>>> justified.
>>>>
>>>> Arnold
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Michael Hansen
> <mhansen4 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Sandbox is now up and running on our website. If you want to
> play
>>>>> around with a drupal install and not have to worry about breaking
>>>>> something there is one there for you. If you want to experiment
> with
>>>>> other things just create a sub directory off of the root and dorp
> in
>>>>> your code. Complete login information is posted on our website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if you have questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Mike Hansen
>>>>>
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