[Nfbc-info] websight access

ckrugman at sbcglobal.net ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Thu Jun 11 05:48:19 UTC 2009 

After you post and review your ad you will find a page that shows the word 
verification format. On that page there is a link that says "Get Audio 
Challenge." after clicking on this link you will hear audio instructions and 
you will then hear a series of words which a bit garbled almost sounding 
like it is coming from a narrative with sound effects in the background. I 
attempted to create an ad as I'm trying to find homes for kittens and I gave 
up on attempting to use it after a few tries. I do not consider this format 
to be satisfactory for screen reader use. apparently this is new since the 
last time I posted an ad.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marianne Haas" <braillewoman at earthlink.net>
To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] websight access


> How do I get to this audio version?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:55 PM
> To: NFB of California List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] websight access
>
> Craigslist has an audio alternative that works well or at least it did
> several months ago when I posted an ad.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marianne Haas" <braillewoman at earthlink.net>
> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] websight access
>
>
>> Hi Carla,
>> My name is Marianne and I also have not seen this.  Do you know if
>> craigslist has something like that/  I always have to ask for assistance
>> if
>> I want to put an ad up because of copying the numbers I cannot see.
>>
>> Marianne
>> (510) 525-7965
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Karla Gilbride
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 5:04 PM
>> To: NFB of California List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] websight access
>>
>> The New York Times uses it whenever you try to e-mail an article to
>> someone. That's the main context in which I've experienced it, though
>> I've seen it on one or two other sites as well.
>>
>> Karla Gilbride
>> John W. Carson Fellowship Attorney
>> (admitted to practice in NY only)
>> Disability Rights Advocates
>> 2001 Center Street, Third Floor
>> Berkeley, California  94704-1204
>>
>> 510-665-8644  ext. 117 (Tel)
>> 510-665-8716 (TTY)
>> 510-665-8511 (Fax)
>> kgilbride at dralegal.org
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 4:39 PM
>> To: NFB of California List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] websight access
>>
>> I have never heard it in action. Can you provide a link to a web site
>> where it is in use.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Karla Gilbride" <kgilbride at dralegal.org>
>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] websight access
>>
>>
>>> What do you all think of the new Re-Captia that uses strings of words
>>> instead of those number sequences in the garbled voice? The sound
>>> quality is much better though there is more to copy (usually for or
>>> five words in the string).
>>>
>>>
>>> Karla Gilbride
>>> John W. Carson Fellowship Attorney
>>> (admitted to practice in NY only)
>>> Disability Rights Advocates
>>> 2001 Center Street, Third Floor
>>> Berkeley, California  94704-1204
>>>
>>> 510-665-8644  ext. 117 (Tel)
>>> 510-665-8716 (TTY)
>>> 510-665-8511 (Fax)
>>> kgilbride at dralegal.org
>>>
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:12 PM
>>> To: NFB of California List
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] websight access
>>>
>>> yes, many of the alternatives to captcha web sites are difficult to
>>> understand as the voices are garbled and mixed to create the distorted
>>
>>> equivalent of what is on the screen. I with perfect above average
>>> hearing have had to try several times to sign up on several of them so
>>
>>> this is not just a problem for deaf-blind people.
>>> Chuck
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Angela Palmer" <nexaliq at comcast.net>
>>> To: <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 8:42 PM
>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] websight access
>>>
>>>
>>>> format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I agree with the below message.  Except I cannot understand what the
>>>> captcha   word is due to my hearing loss.  I cannot understand a
>> thing
>>> the
>>>> audio says.  And obviously, I cannot see the visual.  Since I have
>>>> used several sight that uses this to access the final step of an
>>>> order
>>>
>>>> or something I am compleatly unable to access these sights.
>>>>
>>>> Angela and Pathfinder
>>>> we need to be systematically addressing the use of captcha or word
>>>> verification systems appearing on many types of web sites without
>>>> audio alternatives. Web designers convince web site owners that this
>>>> is a deterrent from various types of malicious data being entered on
>>> web sites.
>>>> The only thing that it does is restrict access is this type of image
>>>> is not compatible with screen reading software as a whole.
>>>> Chuck
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Michael Hingson" <info at michaelhingson.com>
>>>> To: "'NFB of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 11:42 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] After Target - was - Re: What about Apple,
>>>> iTunes,and the iPhone, etc?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually,
>>>>
>>>> Apple is making iTunes and iPods accessible under agreements reached
>>>> after the Target litigation was settled.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to see us continue after Target and other organizations
>>>> for continuing to use touch screen POS machines at checkout counters.
>>>>
>>>> The Michael Hingson Group
>>>> "Speaking with Vision"
>>>> Michael Hingson, President
>>>> (415) 827-4084
>>>> info at michaelhingson.com
>>>> www.michaelhingson.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> for info on the new KNFB Reader Mobile, visit:
>>>> http://knfbreader.michaelhingson.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Fred Chambers
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 8:04 AM
>>>> To: NFB of California List
>>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] After Target - was - Re: What about Apple,
>>>> iTunes, and the iPhone, etc?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now that some of us are receiving checks from the NFB V. TARGET
>>>> lawsuit, what about all these other inaccessible web sites and
>>> products?
>>>>
>>>> What about Apple?  Their iTunes software, iTunes store, iPod, and
>>>> iPhone all have access problems.
>>>>
>>>> Who is pushing apple?  Do we have a law suit underway?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>> VP Beach Cities Chapter NFBC
>>>>
>>>>
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