[Nfbc-info] Accessible Point-of-Sale Machines

ckrugman at sbcglobal.net ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Mon Apr 16 04:04:53 UTC 2012


I too have never found this to be a problem especially when shopping in a 
supermarket such as Fresh & Easy as the courtesy clerk has just helped me 
spend around $200. It is probably a problem where people choose to use self 
service kiosks that are in some stores. Now Fresh & Easy needs to do 
something about the accessibility of their web site or they did the last 
time I checked which was several months ago.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Accessible Point-of-Sale Machines


>I guess it depends a lot on what constitutes a "problem."
>
> I often need someone's help to complete a transaction, either
> selecting credit/debit, or entering my PIN, or showing me where to
> sign.
>
> In places like "Fresh and Easy" where they don't have cashiers, I need
> to get the courtesy clerk who showed around the store to also scan my
> items.
>
> I don't actually view any of these situations as a problem, but it's
> possible they're not obeying the law.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 07:00:25PM -0400, Tim Elder wrote:
>> Eileen raises a good point about the lack of accessibility that most of 
>> us
>> encounter when making a retail purchase through point-of-sale devices. 
>> Do
>> others on this list have examples of retail stores where accessing the 
>> touch
>> screen point-of-sale interface has been a problem?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Timothy Elder
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:41 AM
>> To: 'NFB of California List'
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly"
>> Lottomachines?Whydon'ttheytalk?
>>
>> Recently, trying to find an old slot machine on an Indian reservation or 
>> in
>> Vegas is like winning a Jackpot. They are almost nonexistent. At least 
>> that
>> has been my experience lately.
>>
>> On a similar note, I was in Radio Shack making a purchase of a Bluetooth
>> keyboard and their POI was still not accessible. There was no keypad
>> accompanying the touch screen in order for the blind to have equal access 
>> to
>> making a private purchase. Is there any way to register this incident to
>> correct the issue. I know that several of us recently have been going 
>> there
>> to purchase a particular Bluetooth keyboard. It would be interesting what
>> others have found and who needs to be alerted to this issue.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Eileen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:48 PM
>> To: NFB of California List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly"
>> Lottomachines?Whydon'ttheytalk?
>>
>> Actually, there is a phone number you can call to get the winning numbers 
>> or
>> go to the web site. On some of the old slot machines a blind person could
>> tell by the sounds the machine made similar to the old pin ball machines. 
>> My
>> two cats are demanding to win the loto jackpot.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren1 at catliness.com>
>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly"
>> Lottomachines?Whydon'ttheytalk?
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> > Several years ago, when my husband was still alive, we stopped over at
>> > the Las Vegas airport on our way somewhere else.  He had to help me
>> > with the slot machines because they were not blind-friendly.
>> >
>> > I thought about purchasing lottery tickets when the jackpot was so
>> > high, but I didn't know how I would read them or keep track of the
>> > numbers, so I didn't do it.  I probably would have needed someone's
>> > help, which I preferred not to avail myself of.
>> > Thanks
>> > Lauren
>> > advice from my cats: "meow when you feel like it."
>> > "There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and 
>> > cats."
>>
>> > ~
>> > Albert Schweitzer
>> > My new book, "there's more than one way to love a cat," is available
>> > at amazon.com Visit us at catliness.com
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>> > To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:25 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto
>> > machines?Whydon'ttheytalk?
>> >
>> >
>> >> No I hadn't thought about until I came across this thread although
>> >> i['ve been aware of issues atcasinos for quite some time as one of
>> >> our former chapter members had an issue at one of them a few years 
>> >> ago.
>> >> chuck
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Mary Willows" <mwillows at sbcglobal.net>
>> >> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:19 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines?
>> >> Whydon'ttheytalk?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Go for it if you want to take this one on.  Did you send this
>> >>> information to Dr.  Maurer?
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>> >>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 1:25 AM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines? Why
>> >>> don'ttheytalk?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> As usual I'm way behind on routine emails. This is an interesting
>> >>>> topic. I usually don't by lottery tickets but I bought some when we
>> >>>> had the large mega millions jackpot. I found that my actual picks
>> >>>> did not scan using Kurzweil while the rest of the information on
>> >>>> the ticket was read properly. In addition to the lottery machines
>> >>>> not being accessible none of the machines at the casinos are usable
>> >>>> by blind people. Of course as the Indian tribes are sovereign
>> >>>> nations they are not technically governed by the ADA and other
>> regulations.
>> >>>> Chuck
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>> >>>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:30 PM
>> >>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines? Why don't
>> >>>> theytalk?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Greetings Federationists!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Why aren't there any talking Lotto machines?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I occasionally buy Mega Millions or Calif Super Lotto tickets from
>> >>>>> my trusty Mom & Pop shop.  I bring my ticket home, and file it
>> >>>>> with my other tickets.  Every few weeks, I take the tickets back
>> >>>>> to the shop, and the friendly staff scan the tickets, congratulate
>> >>>>> me on any winners, etc.  In our laid back beach town, we seem to
>> >>>>> share a neighborly feeling of trust. Besides, the shop has
>> >>>>> cameras, so everyone is recorded around the counter.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Recently, my girlfriend raised a point.  I don't really know which
>> >>>>> tickets are winners or losers, but am simply taking someone else's
>> >>>>> word on what the scanner gadget said.  To wit:  why don't the
>> >>>>> lottery ticket machines talk?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Is this something that we should weigh-in on?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thoughts?  Comments?  Complaints?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Wishing all of you a prosperous and healthful new year, filled
>> >>>>> with as much love and peace as you can stand!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Fred C
>> >>>>> Beach Cities Chaper
>> >>>>> NFBC
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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