[Nfbc-info] Accessible Point-of-Sale Machines

Mon Apr 16 01:46:45 UTC 2012

A few years ago, the NFBC worked hard to legislate the change in how a low
vision or blind individual could access a POI, which would include a keypad
along with the touch screen. It's a matter of following the law and the fact
of one having the choice on how they want to perform their transactions.
When there is only a touch screen, I have no choice and need to perform a
credit transaction. I am not saying that I won't need sighted assistance
when completing a transaction, but it's nice to be able to keep certain
parts of the transactions private. I guess this is one of my pet peas and a
loss to privacy, which has always troubled me. There are just things that I
like to have control over and the lack of control with privacy is a battle
that I will have to overcome. 

Thanks for listening & I value my independence greatly, so maybe that's why
I brought up the issue about inaccessible POIs. 

Cheers, 
Eileen   -----Original Message-----
From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Barbour
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 4:40 PM
To: NFB of California List
Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Accessible Point-of-Sale Machines

I guess it depends a lot on what constitutes a "problem."

I often need someone's help to complete a transaction, either selecting
credit/debit, or entering my PIN, or showing me where to sign.

In places like "Fresh and Easy" where they don't have cashiers, I need to
get the courtesy clerk who showed around the store to also scan my items.

I don't actually view any of these situations as a problem, but it's
possible they're not obeying the law.

Jim

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 07:00:25PM -0400, Tim Elder wrote:
> Eileen raises a good point about the lack of accessibility that most 
> of us encounter when making a retail purchase through point-of-sale 
> devices.  Do others on this list have examples of retail stores where 
> accessing the touch screen point-of-sale interface has been a problem?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Timothy Elder
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:41 AM
> To: 'NFB of California List'
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly"
> Lottomachines?Whydon'ttheytalk?
> 
> Recently, trying to find an old slot machine on an Indian reservation 
> or in Vegas is like winning a Jackpot. They are almost nonexistent. At 
> least that has been my experience lately.
> 
> On a similar note, I was in Radio Shack making a purchase of a 
> Bluetooth keyboard and their POI was still not accessible. There was 
> no keypad accompanying the touch screen in order for the blind to have 
> equal access to making a private purchase. Is there any way to 
> register this incident to correct the issue. I know that several of us 
> recently have been going there to purchase a particular Bluetooth 
> keyboard. It would be interesting what others have found and who needs to
be alerted to this issue.
> 
> Thanks. 
> Eileen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:48 PM
> To: NFB of California List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly"
> Lottomachines?Whydon'ttheytalk?
> 
> Actually, there is a phone number you can call to get the winning 
> numbers or go to the web site. On some of the old slot machines a 
> blind person could tell by the sounds the machine made similar to the 
> old pin ball machines. My two cats are demanding to win the loto jackpot.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren1 at catliness.com>
> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" 
> Lottomachines?Whydon'ttheytalk?
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> > Several years ago, when my husband was still alive, we stopped over 
> > at the Las Vegas airport on our way somewhere else.  He had to help 
> > me with the slot machines because they were not blind-friendly.
> >
> > I thought about purchasing lottery tickets when the jackpot was so 
> > high, but I didn't know how I would read them or keep track of the 
> > numbers, so I didn't do it.  I probably would have needed someone's 
> > help, which I preferred not to avail myself of.
> > Thanks
> > Lauren
> > advice from my cats: "meow when you feel like it."
> > "There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and
cats."
> 
> > ~
> > Albert Schweitzer
> > My new book, "there's more than one way to love a cat," is available 
> > at amazon.com Visit us at catliness.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto 
> > machines?Whydon'ttheytalk?
> >
> >
> >> No I hadn't thought about until I came across this thread although 
> >> i['ve been aware of issues atcasinos for quite some time as one of 
> >> our former chapter members had an issue at one of them a few years ago.
> >> chuck
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mary Willows" <mwillows at sbcglobal.net>
> >> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:19 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines? 
> >> Whydon'ttheytalk?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Go for it if you want to take this one on.  Did you send this 
> >>> information to Dr.  Maurer?
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> >>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 1:25 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines? Why 
> >>> don'ttheytalk?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> As usual I'm way behind on routine emails. This is an interesting 
> >>>> topic. I usually don't by lottery tickets but I bought some when 
> >>>> we had the large mega millions jackpot. I found that my actual 
> >>>> picks did not scan using Kurzweil while the rest of the 
> >>>> information on the ticket was read properly. In addition to the 
> >>>> lottery machines not being accessible none of the machines at the 
> >>>> casinos are usable by blind people. Of course as the Indian 
> >>>> tribes are sovereign nations they are not technically governed by 
> >>>> the ADA and other
> regulations.
> >>>> Chuck
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> >>>> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:30 PM
> >>>> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Any "blind-friendly" Lotto machines? Why 
> >>>> don't theytalk?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Greetings Federationists!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why aren't there any talking Lotto machines?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I occasionally buy Mega Millions or Calif Super Lotto tickets 
> >>>>> from my trusty Mom & Pop shop.  I bring my ticket home, and file 
> >>>>> it with my other tickets.  Every few weeks, I take the tickets 
> >>>>> back to the shop, and the friendly staff scan the tickets, 
> >>>>> congratulate me on any winners, etc.  In our laid back beach 
> >>>>> town, we seem to share a neighborly feeling of trust. Besides, 
> >>>>> the shop has cameras, so everyone is recorded around the counter.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Recently, my girlfriend raised a point.  I don't really know 
> >>>>> which tickets are winners or losers, but am simply taking 
> >>>>> someone else's word on what the scanner gadget said.  To wit:  
> >>>>> why don't the lottery ticket machines talk?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is this something that we should weigh-in on?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thoughts?  Comments?  Complaints?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wishing all of you a prosperous and healthful new year, filled 
> >>>>> with as much love and peace as you can stand!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fred C
> >>>>> Beach Cities Chaper
> >>>>> NFBC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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