[nfbcs] Seriaol to USB Monitors
Gabe Vega
theblindtech at gmail.com
Sun Sep 11 23:19:51 UTC 2011
I've heard of a usb monitor with a built in mid range level video card built in to the monitor. but I never ever in my personal or professional experience and the 5 minutes I researched a serial based minter and/or graphics card doesn't reveal anything. but good luck with that. btw if you are both blind then why a bigger screen?
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On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Peter Donahue wrote:
> Hello Steve and everyone,
>
> The monitor in question is a Gateway monitor we bought in 2004. It's
> rather old but still works great.
>
> When her Gateway fried in 2009 we used the same monitor on her new Dell
> box; the one that caught the virus. There was no problem with this because
> the Dell box had one serial port so it and the Gateway monitor played nice
> together. It's a CRT monitor and takes up lots of room on her desk. Getting
> a new machine that includes a flat screen monitor and possibly one that's
> larger than the old CRT monitor will be wonderful. I'm just not sure if a
> serial to USB conversion on such an old monitor on a new PC would work.
>
> Peter Donahue
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Computer Purchesses and Family Members
>
>
> There are USB to Serial adapters/converters, but they apparently are not all
> created equal. However, I wonder if the
> monitor is truly a serial monitor? That seems unusual to me. Also, an old
> monitor I have severely limits the resolution
> settings I can choose under Windows 7, and it does not work correctly when I
> go into the CMOS setup screens. If it
> is real old, you might have to just dump it.
>
> I bought a Trendnet USB to Serial converter and it seems to crash my system
> after ten minutes or so when I use it with
> an Artic Transport. It uses the "Prolific" chip set, and I have been told
> that chip set does not work well with devices
> that make heavy use of the serial port as to synthesizers. I am told that
> USBGear uses a different chip set that works
> better but have not tried it yet. Of course, this kind of thing can change
> at any time, but I now wish I had just had a
> serial card put in. The point is just that there are issues when trying to
> use old equipment with new computers.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:58:22 -0700, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>
>> Yes, there are USB serial adapters.
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Computer Purchesses and Family Members
>
>
>> Hello again everyone,
>
>> The old monitor is connected via serial port. I'm not sure the new box
>> would
>> include a serial port or if there are adapters to convert a serial port to
>> a
>> USB port so devices with serial connectors could be used with a USB-only
>> system.
>
>> Peter Donahue
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mary Donahue" <braille at satx.rr.com>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Computer Purchesses and Family Members
>
>
>> Hello Brian and everyone,
>
>> My monitor is still good, but my printer is a Lexmark Z700, and we
>> could
>> never download the printer driver after I got my last Dell. That printer
>> and
>> monitor were part of a Gateway I had, which died an early death after a
>> power outage in 2009 and a strong power surge fried the insides including
>> the mother bord.
>
>> I forgot to mention in my last message that we offered to go halves on
>> the cost, but my brother would not hear of it, saying we "don't have that
>> kind of money."
>
>> Mary Donahue
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Computer Purchesses and Family Members
>
>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> what is so special that you are demanding exact specs of brand, capacity,
>>> etc.?
>>> any win7, 2.8+ghz/now days they are called i3, i5, or i7 processor, most
>>> have at least a 500g or 1t hard drive, most are shipping with at least 4g
>>> ram.
>>> all include sound, video, lan, and multi usb.
>>> the only thing i try to avoid is ati video cards and you can usually find
>>> a
>>> system with gforce video really easy.
>>>
>>> i don't remember if the one she has was a laptop.
>>> assuming your monitor and printer still work:
>>> here is an example;
>>> (lenovo bought ibm)
>>> Lenovo - Ideacentre Desktop / Intel® Pentium® Processor / 4GB Memory /
>>> 1TB
>>> Hard Drive
>>> Model: K300-53162HU| SKU: 1757565
>>> Customer Reviews:
>>>
>>> Lenovo - Ideacentre Desktop / Intel® Pentium® Processor / 4GB Memory /
>>> 1TB
>>> Hard Drive
>>> includes keyboard and m ouse.
>>> Model: K300-53162HU
>>> Customer Reviews: 4.3 out of 5 stars
>>> Sale:$329.99
>>> Reg. Price:$449.99
>>>
>>> extras:
>>> 2-Year Protection Plan $59.99
>>> Microsoft Office Home and Business 2010 $199.99
>>>
>>> Product Features
>>> .Intel® Pentium® processor E5800
>>> Features 2 processing cores and 3.2GHz processor speed.
>>> .4GB DDR3 memory
>>> For multitasking power, expandable to 8GB.
>>> .1TB Serial ATA hard drive (7200 rpm)
>>> Offers plenty of storage capacity.
>>> .15-in-1 media reader
>>> Supports Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, Memory Stick Duo, Memory Stick
>>> PRO
>>> Duo, Secure Digital, miniSD, Secure Digital High Capacity, miniSDHC,
>>> MultiMediaCard, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard and MultiMediaCard Plus
>>> formats.
>>> .Also supports MultiMediaCard mobile, CompactFlash I/II and Microdrive
>>> formats.
>>> .Multiformat DVDñRW/CD-RW drive
>>> Create custom DVDs and CDs.
>>> .Graphics Media Accelerator X4500 graphics
>>> For lush images.
>>> .8 high-speed USB 2.0 ports
>>> For fast digital video, audio and data transfer.
>>> .Built-in 10/100 Ethernet LAN
>>> For quick and easy wired Web connection.
>>> .Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit operating system
>>> preinstalled
>>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 12:13 PM
>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Computer Purchesses and Family Members
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Gabe and everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Switching would be the least of our considerations right now. We
>>>> appreciate the in-laws willingness to assist us with the computer
>>>> purchess
>>>> but could do without the horsepuckey that's going along with it. We're
>>>> adults, We know our particular computer needs, and understand what it
>>>> needed
>>>> for access technology to work correctly.
>>>>
>>>> We sent them a quote but they said it was too high. No problem. We
>>>> offered to go halves on it so as not to put them out too much. They've
>>>> turned this deal in to a his needs verses her needs circus, and wanted
>>>> to
>>>> obtain quotes from individuals who know absolutely nothing about access
>>>> technology and what's required for it to run correctly.
>>>>
>>>> Again we appreciate their willingness to help Mary replace her
>>>> computer
>>>> but could do without all of the stress, tension, and just plain being
>>>> treated like children; treatment we've also received from VR agencies
>>>> when
>>>> it comes to purchasing such technology. This is exactly why we prefer to
>>>> purchass such equipment our selves and why we urge others to do so. Had
>>>> her
>>>> computer been hit by this virus in March of 2012, around the time we
>>>> receive
>>>> our tax refund this would have been a done deal by now. It would have
>>>> taken
>>>> the entire refund to replace Mary's computer but we could have done it
>>>> with
>>>> pride, dignity, all of the hassles, delaying tactics, and other nonsense
>>>> from VR agencies and well-meaning family members. If push comes to shove
>>>> we
>>>> might very well end up telling them "Thanks but no thanks." It will mean
>>>> digging in and raising the needed funds ourselves but this is preferable
>>>> to
>>>> the alternative. I'll let Mary say more if she chooses to do so.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:20 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> no one asked you to switch. I was just making the point that its pretty
>>>> sad
>>>> having to sacrifice and make so many computer design compromises based
>>>> on
>>>> what your assistive technology will or will not do.
>>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my Apple Mac Mini
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>>>> On Sep 11, 2011, at 5:28 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're used to working in Windows you're going to stay with that
>>>>> platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:14 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the whole conversation is sad because why would it matter if
>>>>> its
>>>>> all
>>>>> in one or not? I've been using an all in one in one fashion or another
>>>>> with
>>>>> voice over since 2005 and using touch based technology again with
>>>>> voiceover
>>>>> on the mac since 2010. been also using a touch based phone with voice
>>>>> over
>>>>> since 2009. sad people got to make so many sacrifices when using
>>>>> windows.
>>>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my Apple Mac Mini
>>>>> Hit me up Voice/Text: (623) 565-9357
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 11, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> yes it is but i'm not the one that wants to pay hundreds extra to
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> sure it's a factory dell.
>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>>>>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 6:06 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I am not the moderator, but isn't the price of cabs getting a
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> off topic for a Computer Science list?
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz"
>>>>>>> <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:23 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how much are cab prices there?
>>>>>>>> it's about $14 for 5 miles here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Donahue"
>>>>>>>> <braille at satx.rr.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 4:52 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Brian and everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lots. The closest Best-Buy Stores are located about five miles away
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the cab fare is quite hefty.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mary Donahue
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz"
>>>>>>>>> <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 4:41 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> don't know your price range or desired features but ups delivered
>>>>>>>>>> hp
>>>>>>>>>> to my door.
>>>>>>>>>> the brand doesn't matter as long as you have the same versions and
>>>>>>>>>> apps as your work location.
>>>>>>>>>> how much could a cab cost compared to saving several hundred
>>>>>>>>>> dollars?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Donahue"
>>>>>>>>>> <braille at satx.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 4:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Brian and everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate your opinion, but I want the best for my needs
>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>> having to spend on transportation to go to some place like Best
>>>>>>>>>>> Buy.
>>>>>>>>>>> I chose Dell because that's what my other computer was, and
>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>> what I'm using at work. Remember, my mother and brother are
>>>>>>>>>>> helping
>>>>>>>>>>> me get this system as an early birthday/Christmas gift. I have to
>>>>>>>>>>> think about them, especially my mother, since she'll be paying.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mary Donahue
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz"
>>>>>>>>>>> <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> imo i would stay away from the all in one.
>>>>>>>>>>>> you can get a really good tower, monitor, printer deal for $550
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> less at a place like best buy and have choices other than dell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Donahue"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] All-In-Ones and Touch Screen Monitors
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello again everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The search for a new computer for Mary goes on. We came across
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> referred to as all-in-one computers. Rather than their being a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tower for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brains of the operation and, a separate monitor and speakers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> components are housed in a single box hence the term
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all-in-one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Several of the units also come with touch-screen monitors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows machines and from what I can tell should handle access
>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just fine. None the less before the in-laws put down the bucks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new machine we decided to check to see if anyone on these lists
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all-in-one PC, if anyone has a touch-screen monitor on their PC
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> course how well screen access technology plays on these systems
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> presence of a touch-screen monitor. Once again your feedback
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Will you come and awake our lost land from its slumber
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And her fetters we'll break, links that long are encumbered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the air will resound with hosannas to greet you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the shore will be found gallant Irishmen to greet you."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will You Come to the Bower
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Traditional Irish Folk Song
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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