[nfbcs] Accessibility (was: BMC Remedy web-based client)

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Wed Jan 18 16:44:30 UTC 2012


Amen!

My experience is that while sighted users *say* they hate fancy graphics and visual constructs, in practice they'd be lost without them, especially if they have to read or memorize anything.

Mike Freeman


On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:35, "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:

> This is a meaningful dialog and it is too important to have it get bogged down in personality clashes.  
> John, Gabe is too direct for my tastes, but I think he was pretty much expressing the same viewpoint as 
> I tried to express in a different way.  We probably all need to check the thickness of our skins.  
> Please let's not go down this road.  John, I personally appreciate your background and insights into 
> some of this.  However, Gabe also has experience that I don't have so I'll try to work through his 
> directness to get the information he conveys.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> 
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:19:18 -0600, John Heim wrote:
> 
>> Gave, your opinion is no more valuable than mine.  I have 30 years of 
>> experience as a developer and I know for a fact that most users prefer apps 
>> that work over ones that look pretty.
> 
>> If you can't discuss this without being insulting, you should shut up.
> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessibility (was: BMC Remedy web-based client)
> 
> 
>>> I pitty your false sense of reality on your view on accessible apps. it 
>>> just doesn't work that way in the sighted world.
>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my Apple Mac Mini
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>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:36 AM, John Heim wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't know... It seems to me that the best software is almost always 
>>>> also the most accessible. Most users don't really like all the fancy 




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