[nfbcs] FW: [IDevices] Your Help Is Needed, Apple Feedback

I. C. Bray i.c.bray at win.net
Wed Aug 28 23:06:46 UTC 2013 

OK, this is going to stretch public opinion to the extreem, but here goes.
While I am new to iOS in general, I have been using my iPhone 4s steadilly 
steadily and intensively since December 28.
I have not found that using any of the bluetooth devices is to my advantage 
BECAUSE they are too small, compact, and generally have quirks that 
"new-ish" users are not easilly adapted to.
That being said, someone needs to develop a handset ( yes like the old 
type ) that can be bluetoothed to the phone like a cordless telephone.
It should have a way to plug in a "HANDS FREE" headset/phone and a dialpad, 
hook/flash, hold, mute, and other types of functionality for those who "road 
warrior" or conduct business on the move.

Also-- While I'm on a para-rant, can anyone direct me to a FULL-SIZE 
bluetooth programmers keyboard that will work as well as the tiny, 
child-sized ones do?
I have big hands... and it's hard to use those things.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] FW: [IDevices] Your Help Is Needed, Apple Feedback


> Jim,
>
> The trouble is, I'm not sure that any of us would say we can dial as 
> quickly with the touch keypad with voiceOver as one can visually. 
> However, I'm not sure the answer is as simple as allowing a bluetooth
> keyboard during phone calls, either.  I'd really like to know whether 
> there is a reason that this isn't permitted as there might be a good one. 
> Be that as it may, though, I am bothered a little if you feel that we
> don't have the right to ask for a feature that might be useful to us 
> simply as customers.  To me, to make a case that this is an accessibility 
> issue might be stretching it, but we are now customers, and with my
> great big two months of experience with an iPhone under my belt, I do find 
> that interacting with places that require significant data entry using the 
> numeric keypad to be difficult at times.  I am continuing to get
> better, though.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:25:29 -0700, Barcore wrote:
>
>>Hey Susie,
>
>>Can you explain how this is impacting blind people specifically? Why are 
>>we not able to simply use the numbers on the on screen keyboard With a 
>>pair of headphones? I understand that if you have a
> Bluetooth keyboard, it would be more convenient to use those numbers. 
> However, is this any different than it would be for sighted folks?
>
>>Thank you,
>
>>Jim
>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>
>>On Aug 28, 2013, at 7:35 AM, "Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO" 
>><Susan.Stanzel at kcc.usda.gov> wrote:
>
>>> Hi Listers,
>>>
>>> I know this might be considered off topic, but it is important. Apple 
>>> needs to hear from us.
>>>
>>> Susie Stanzel
>>>
>>> From: IDevices [mailto:idevices-bounces at gatewayfortheblind.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of David G. Carlson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:24 AM
>>> To: Denny at GatewayForTheBlind.Com; IDevices at GatewayForTheBlind.Com
>>> Subject: Re: [IDevices] Your Help Is Needed, Apple Feedback
>>>
>>> Done. Agree completely that using the on screen keypad is often not fast 
>>> enough to satisfy the prompt processor. It's very frustrating.
>>> David G. Carlson
>>> Marketing / Sales Engineer
>>> RF Timing and Synchronization
>>> dgcarlson at sbcglobal.net<mailto:dgcarlson at sbcglobal.net>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Denny Huff<mailto:denny at gatewayfortheblind.com>
>>> To: 
>>> IDevices at GatewayForTheBlind.Com<mailto:IDevices at GatewayForTheBlind.Com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:24 AM
>>> Subject: [IDevices] Your Help Is Needed, Apple Feedback
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>>                If you use Voiceover and have ever tried to use the 
>>> numbers on your bluetooth keyboard while on a phone call, you have found 
>>> that it doesn't work.  This is a problem that Apple has not
> addressed and although the engineers have been made aware of the problem, 
> it still hasn't been resolved.
>>>
>>>                It is very difficult to enter a string of numbers on the 
>>> IPhone in the amount of time allotted for many of the services we may 
>>> call.  IE: banking service, ordering products with a credit card, etc. 
>>> For
> those that use a bluetooth keyboard this process would be much simpler if 
> only we could use the numbers on the keyboard.
>>>
>>>                In order for this problem to be addressed and resolved in 
>>> a timely manner, Apple needs to hear from us.  The more people that send 
>>> them feedback on this problem the more likely the engineers will
> take it seriously.
>>>
>>>                This is what you can do.  Follow one of the links below 
>>> and let them know that you would like to see this problem be corrected. 
>>> Let them know that you should be able to use Voiceover and the
> numbers on a bluetooth keyboard while on a phone call.  Be courteous when 
> making your complaint but also let them know how much this affects you.
>>>
>>> Here are the links you can go to to submit your feedback to Apple;
>>> For the IPhone:
>>> http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
>>> For the IPad:
>>> http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html
>>> All other devices and IOS apps:
>>> http://www.apple.com/feedback/
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ___________________________________________________________________
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>>> Gateway For the Blind LLC.
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