[nfbcs] project tracking software

Sat May 11 20:34:28 UTC 2013

Add in dyslectics and that stereotypical number grows slightly.  I once 
was on an Amtrak Train traveling out of Washington D.C. and got 
approached by a dyslectic worker before C.A.P. ever existed and was 
asked about my speech synthesizer system for my computer.  It turned out 
this worker at home had one of those $1,500.00 dectalk synthesizers and 
it had broken.  I told him I don't use Dectalk anywhere and don't know 
any alternate repair sites for them but do use a doubletalk lt 
synthesizer and explained what I paid for it.  He probably bought a 
double talk lt synthesizer and was very happy to do so.

On Sat, 11 May 2013, Mike Freeman wrote:

> Jude:
> 
> I don't think there are enough blind persons working for government to
> warrant the time and effort that would be needed to implement a bribe and
> payoff stratagem.
> 
> I think the real problem lies in our small numbers and our inability to
> exact a sufficient penalty for inaccessibility. We're trying to remedy this
> situation now (a recent lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Labor) but
> it's going to be a long slog.
> 
> Mike Freeman
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:41 AM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software
> 
> Every one of you on this list with a direct interest in accessibility in 
> either the federal workplace or state workplace could do well to 
> subscribe yourselves to fedaccessibility-subscribe at yahoogroups.com if 
> you want to do it, just send a blank message to that address and you'll 
> start that process.  Inaccessibility of office equipment and software is 
> often maintained by management in several Federal agencies by blind 
> employees having their jobs threatened.  When you have this many 
> problems that those problems spread onto at least two e-mail lists yet 
> Section 508 Co-ordinators report zero complaints in agencies with blind 
> employees in them, something is rotten in Denmark!  I don't know of any 
> direct reports, but I've read at least one other member on the 
> fedaccessibility e-mail list write in general terms about these kind of 
> incidents.  Very probably lucrative for managers to suppress complaints 
> since it's reasonable to expect corporations that will not do proper 
> accessibility to be compensating those managers to keep the 
> accessibility lid on.  The corporations probably reason a few good 
> regular payments to certain federal managers in both the acquisition 
> chain at first for getting the software licenses purchased first then 
> paying off management chains that reach down to blind employees is less 
> expensive than doing accessibility properly.  I don't know that any of 
> this is correct and if I ever run into specific cases those will be made 
> known but based on logic of bribes and pay offs this appears to be a 
> very feasible structure for how when and why corporate accessibility 
> violators would conduct their business.
> 
> On Sat, 11 May 2013, Tracy Carcione wrote:
> 
> > I know this is a ridiculous thing to say, but there is a law requiring the
> > government to only purchase accessible software, right?  Yet they're using
> > JIRA, which Susie says is inaccessible.  Thus, they're breaking the law.
> I
> > just thought it had to be said.
> > Tracy
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO"
> > <Susan.Stanzel at kcc.usda.gov>
> > To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 5:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software
> > 
> > 
> > > The project lead sometimes has to use HP Quallity Center because the
> Testing
> > > and Certification Office is part of our team. We submit our software to
> them
> > > for their review before it goes to production. It would be handy if I
> could
> > > use it, but more handy if I could use JIRA.
> > >
> > > Susie
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
> Jacobson
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:24 PM
> > > To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] project tracking software
> > >
> > > Susie,
> > >
> > > That is interesting that the government is using HP Quality Center.  I
> had
> > > trouble using it but it turned out I didn't have to so I did not pursue
> it.
> > > However, I thought it was more for developing and executing test cases,
> > > although maybe that is just one use.
> > > Whether it helps or not, if I have to use it, knowing it is used by the
> > > government could give me more of a lever to get them to fix those things
> > > that don't appear to be accessible.  Unfortunately, I think some of the
> > > problem I have seen with HPQC may have to do with screen readers not
> keeping
> > > up as well as they might with modern web approaches.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Steve Jacobson
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 10 May 2013 13:59:16 +0000, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City,
> MO
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Good moring Everyone,
> > >
> > > >There are two different project and bug tracking programs used at USDA.
> > > >They are JIRA which appears not to be accessible and HP
> > > Quallity Center which I am not forced to use. Do any of you successfully
> use
> > > project tracking software? I wish all I had to do in my job was code
> (grin).
> > >
> > > >Susie Stanzel
> > >
> > >
> > >
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