[nfbcs] Enable All Features in Acrobat was RE: office 2010 accessibility question

Nicole Torcolini ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Thu May 23 01:32:39 UTC 2013


If you don't mind me asking, why are 10 and 12 being used? 

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From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:56 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Enable All Features in Acrobat was RE: office 2010
accessibility question

Ah, okay we can only use 10.x now and likely will only be able to use 12.x
for the next few years.  I also found out not only did acrobat start in
protected mode, the document was also password protected.  I wish acrobat
had told me both of those things explicitly together because I would have
not wasted about a week's worth of work.

On Tue, 21 May 2013, Nicole Torcolini wrote:

> Convenient  OCR is a feature that comes with some of the newer 
> versions of JAWS, 14 I think. You can have JAWS do an OCR of the 
> screen and move around it to find the object that you want. Once on 
> that object, you can use the JAWS commands to simulate a mouse click. 
> It is mainly for when a window is a graphic rather than text. It is 
> only meant for that moment, though; you cannot copy what has been OCR'ed.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
> DaShiell
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:31 PM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Enable All Features in Acrobat was RE: office 
> 2010 accessibility question
> 
> I can try using the jaws cursor didn't do that just yet.  What's 
> convenient ocr?
> 
> How is that even done and with what tool? On Tue, 21 May 2013, Nicole 
> Torcolini wrote:
> 
> > Per activating the enable all features button in Acrobat, have you 
> > tried using the JAWS cursor and/or convenient  OCR? No, I do not 
> > like using these features of JAWS, but I do not consider software to 
> > be completely inaccessible if they can be used.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
> > DaShiell
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:23 AM
> > To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: gui-talk at nfbnet.org; fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [nfbcs] office 2010 accessibility question
> > 
> > My employer is deploying office 2010 with all protection features 
> > enabled and that makes what documents you write protected.  The same 
> > has been done with latest version of acrobat.  When it was done with 
> > the latest version of acrobat, it made the enable all features 
> > button invisible to jaws once a document was opened and jaws 
> > couldn't read the document but did read the document's title and it 
> > became impossible to set up and run an accessibility check on that 
> > same document.  The tools->accessibility I was able to do then jaws 
> > went non-verbal and so did the focus 80 display.  The worse problem 
> > is that read outloud won't work with protected documents in pdf 
> > form.  All of this is being done for security reasons.  The Chinese 
> > have been getting into my employer's systems and modifying files 
> > regularly.  So what I need to know about office 2010 is if jaws is 
> > able to read a document that is protected and sent to me for 
> > reading, acrobat is already a lost cause.  If protected documents 
> > cannot be read, it may be
> necessary for me to find another employer that doesn't use this
technology.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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