[nfbcs] Enable All Features in Acrobat was RE: office 2010 accessibility question

Thu May 23 10:14:36 UTC 2013

Because whenever the navy gets a commercial copy of jaws, it's so 
modified by the security types before being packaged by n.m.c.i. that 
web pages that work with the commercial version of jaws no longer work 
with the navy versions of jaws.  It takes time for security to make 
those modifications too.

On Wed, 22 May 2013, Nicole Torcolini wrote:

> If you don't mind me asking, why are 10 and 12 being used? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:56 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Enable All Features in Acrobat was RE: office 2010
> accessibility question
> 
> Ah, okay we can only use 10.x now and likely will only be able to use 12.x
> for the next few years.  I also found out not only did acrobat start in
> protected mode, the document was also password protected.  I wish acrobat
> had told me both of those things explicitly together because I would have
> not wasted about a week's worth of work.
> 
> On Tue, 21 May 2013, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
> 
> > Convenient  OCR is a feature that comes with some of the newer 
> > versions of JAWS, 14 I think. You can have JAWS do an OCR of the 
> > screen and move around it to find the object that you want. Once on 
> > that object, you can use the JAWS commands to simulate a mouse click. 
> > It is mainly for when a window is a graphic rather than text. It is 
> > only meant for that moment, though; you cannot copy what has been OCR'ed.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
> > DaShiell
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:31 PM
> > To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Enable All Features in Acrobat was RE: office 
> > 2010 accessibility question
> > 
> > I can try using the jaws cursor didn't do that just yet.  What's 
> > convenient ocr?
> > 
> > How is that even done and with what tool? On Tue, 21 May 2013, Nicole 
> > Torcolini wrote:
> > 
> > > Per activating the enable all features button in Acrobat, have you 
> > > tried using the JAWS cursor and/or convenient  OCR? No, I do not 
> > > like using these features of JAWS, but I do not consider software to 
> > > be completely inaccessible if they can be used.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
> > > DaShiell
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:23 AM
> > > To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> > > Cc: gui-talk at nfbnet.org; fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [nfbcs] office 2010 accessibility question
> > > 
> > > My employer is deploying office 2010 with all protection features 
> > > enabled and that makes what documents you write protected.  The same 
> > > has been done with latest version of acrobat.  When it was done with 
> > > the latest version of acrobat, it made the enable all features 
> > > button invisible to jaws once a document was opened and jaws 
> > > couldn't read the document but did read the document's title and it 
> > > became impossible to set up and run an accessibility check on that 
> > > same document.  The tools->accessibility I was able to do then jaws 
> > > went non-verbal and so did the focus 80 display.  The worse problem 
> > > is that read outloud won't work with protected documents in pdf 
> > > form.  All of this is being done for security reasons.  The Chinese 
> > > have been getting into my employer's systems and modifying files 
> > > regularly.  So what I need to know about office 2010 is if jaws is 
> > > able to read a document that is protected and sent to me for 
> > > reading, acrobat is already a lost cause.  If protected documents 
> > > cannot be read, it may be
> > necessary for me to find another employer that doesn't use this
> technology.
> > > 
> > > 
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