[nfbcs] Enable All Features in Acrobat was RE: office 2010 accessibility question

Fri May 24 00:07:06 UTC 2013

Oh, okay, understood. 

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Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Enable All Features in Acrobat was RE: office 2010
accessibility question

Because whenever the navy gets a commercial copy of jaws, it's so modified
by the security types before being packaged by n.m.c.i. that web pages that
work with the commercial version of jaws no longer work with the navy
versions of jaws.  It takes time for security to make those modifications
too.

On Wed, 22 May 2013, Nicole Torcolini wrote:

> If you don't mind me asking, why are 10 and 12 being used? 
> 
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> DaShiell
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> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Enable All Features in Acrobat was RE: office 
> 2010 accessibility question
> 
> Ah, okay we can only use 10.x now and likely will only be able to use 
> 12.x for the next few years.  I also found out not only did acrobat 
> start in protected mode, the document was also password protected.  I 
> wish acrobat had told me both of those things explicitly together 
> because I would have not wasted about a week's worth of work.
> 
> On Tue, 21 May 2013, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
> 
> > Convenient  OCR is a feature that comes with some of the newer 
> > versions of JAWS, 14 I think. You can have JAWS do an OCR of the 
> > screen and move around it to find the object that you want. Once on 
> > that object, you can use the JAWS commands to simulate a mouse click.
> > It is mainly for when a window is a graphic rather than text. It is 
> > only meant for that moment, though; you cannot copy what has been
OCR'ed.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
> > DaShiell
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:31 PM
> > To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Enable All Features in Acrobat was RE: office 
> > 2010 accessibility question
> > 
> > I can try using the jaws cursor didn't do that just yet.  What's 
> > convenient ocr?
> > 
> > How is that even done and with what tool? On Tue, 21 May 2013, 
> > Nicole Torcolini wrote:
> > 
> > > Per activating the enable all features button in Acrobat, have you 
> > > tried using the JAWS cursor and/or convenient  OCR? No, I do not 
> > > like using these features of JAWS, but I do not consider software 
> > > to be completely inaccessible if they can be used.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
> > > DaShiell
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:23 AM
> > > To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> > > Cc: gui-talk at nfbnet.org; fedaccessibility at yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [nfbcs] office 2010 accessibility question
> > > 
> > > My employer is deploying office 2010 with all protection features 
> > > enabled and that makes what documents you write protected.  The 
> > > same has been done with latest version of acrobat.  When it was 
> > > done with the latest version of acrobat, it made the enable all 
> > > features button invisible to jaws once a document was opened and 
> > > jaws couldn't read the document but did read the document's title 
> > > and it became impossible to set up and run an accessibility check 
> > > on that same document.  The tools->accessibility I was able to do 
> > > then jaws went non-verbal and so did the focus 80 display.  The 
> > > worse problem is that read outloud won't work with protected 
> > > documents in pdf form.  All of this is being done for security 
> > > reasons.  The Chinese have been getting into my employer's systems 
> > > and modifying files regularly.  So what I need to know about 
> > > office 2010 is if jaws is able to read a document that is 
> > > protected and sent to me for reading, acrobat is already a lost 
> > > cause.  If protected documents cannot be read, it may be
> > necessary for me to find another employer that doesn't use this
> technology.
> > > 
> > > 
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