[nfbcs] Instant jump combo boxes

Sat Nov 15 02:51:07 UTC 2014

I did not intend for my message to be the be all, end all on the subject. I
believe that I wrote that I had never tried it, and that I *thought*. Should
I have written instead "I may be wrong"?

Nicole 

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
via nfbcs
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:05 AM
To: Nicole Torcolini via nfbcs
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Instant jump combo boxes

Nicole,

There are so many situations that come up that it is very hard to know for
sure what is happening.  However, there have been certain combos that change
as soon as one arrows to an entry for some time, and the ALT DOWN ARROW
keystroke was specifically implemented to cause them to open and let one
choose an entry.  It is not a screen reader keystroke.  I am surprised that
you have not had to use that keystroke as it is one I have to use all the
time on certain internal web sites.  If it doesn't work for her, we really
need to understand what is happening.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 20:04:02 -0800, Nicole Torcolini via nfbcs wrote:

>I know what she is talking about, and that is not the problem. In some 
>combo boxes, the page changes as soon as you change the selection using 
>the arrow keys. I've never tried alt down arrow, but I don't think that it
would help.

>Nicole

>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rasmussen, 
>Lloyd via nfbcs
>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:15 AM
>To: 'Aaron Cannon'; 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Instant jump combo boxes

>I don't use JAWS, but have a theory.  In Window-Eyes, you must tab into 
>an interactive element to go into forms mode.  With JAWS, I think the 
>arrow keys also can automatically put you into forms mode.  And, at 
>least in Window-Eyes, you don't necessarily have to press 
>Alt-down-arrow to open a combo box anymore.  I can see that if you were 
>reading with the arrow keys, looking for the control you really wanted 
>to change, you could accidentally alter settings of a different combo box
along the way.  Just a wild guess.

>Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Staff Engineer
>National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped
>Library of Congress   202-707-0535
>http://www.loc.gov/nls
>The preceding opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those 
>of the Library of Congress, NLS.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Cannon 
>via nfbcs
>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:03 PM
>To: Mike Freeman; NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Instant jump combo boxes

>If it helps, Firefox doesn't have this issue, as it doesn't fire change 
>events until the combobox is blurred.

>Aaron

>On 11/13/14, Mike Freeman via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I've never seen a combo box that executed when one landed upon it. 
>> However, I *have* encountered many combo boxes that executed the 
>> first choice one made unless one opened the combo box with 
>> alt-down-arrow and, after making one's choice, closed it with 
>> Alt-up-arrow. Have you
>tried this?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>> Carcione via nfbcs
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:18 AM
>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>> Subject: [nfbcs] Instant jump combo boxes
>>
>> For change control, we're using the web-based ITSM Service Now, which 
>> is very accessible.  The only problem is that someone added a few of 
>> those combo boxes that execute something the minute Jaws lands on it.
>> Is there a way I can make it wait until I've landed on the one I 
>> actually
>want?
>> I'm using Jaws 15 and IE.
>> TIA.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
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