[nfbcs] Putty accessibility

Sun Apr 16 23:03:17 UTC 2017

I've installed Linux in a virtual machine multiple times. In my case, I 
usually use VMware Player and Vinux. I've done this in both Windows and 
Linux. I've also installed other distributions, such as Fedora, Sonar 
and Ubuntu. In VMware Player, I just follow the wizard, point the boot 
device to an ISO of the distribution and then when the virtual machine 
boots up, just start Orca with Alt+Super+s, unless of course it comes up 
automatically or another key sequence is used to start Orca.

On 16/04/17 17:48, Tony Malykh via nfbcs wrote:
> Jack,
>
> Do you know any good accessible  way to either install Linux inside a
> VM or obtain a pre-installed VM image? I was exploring the possibility
> of using either VirtualBox or qemu, but coulden't find an accessible
> way of installing Linux.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 4/16/17, Jack Heim via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Well, that's a good point. What you'd have to do, even in linux, is to
>> enable the screen reader in the virtual machine. There is a really good
>> screen reader, speakup,  for the linux character interface. And it is
>> enable by default if you turn it on during the install in debian linux.
>> I had to abandon Windows years ago because I am a linux sys admin and I
>> decided it just wasn't practical to admin linux machines from Windows.
>> But if I had to have Windows on my desktop, I think I'd try the virtual
>> machine approach.
>>
>> Back then I tried putty, SecureCRT, teraterm, and openssh. What I used
>> most was probably nvda and openssh.
>>
>>
>> On 04/16/2017 11:58 AM, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
>>> VM's that require splitting memory generally don't work well with Windows
>>> when using a screen reader, particularly if the screen reader is JAWS.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jack Heim via
>>> nfbcs
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 9:52 AM
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>> Cc: Jack Heim
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Putty accessibility
>>>
>>> Have you considered using a virtual machine? I am a native linux user so
>>> I
>>> don't know much about virtualization in Windows. But I use virtualbox and
>>> I
>>> know that's available for Windows too. Virtualbox has a really nice
>>> command
>>> line interface that I use to create and operate my virtual machines.
>>> On 04/15/2017 11:30 PM, Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs wrote:
>>>> I tried that option with Linux machines provided by my university, and
>>>> unfortunately, I can't ssh from the machine I have ssh'ed into due to
>>>> some permissions issues. I was able to get Putty working reasonably
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/15/17, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I don't know if I'm going too far, but I just had another idea that
>>>>> might involve no hacking. If you have access to a Linux machine, you
>>>>> might want to set up google cloud client thereand then ssh to that
>>>>> Linux machine and inside the ssh session do another ssh inside google
>>>>> cloud. I never worked with Google cloud, but since that's Google, I
>>>>> think they must have a Linux version.
>>>>> And if you don't have a Linux instance at hand, you can get one in
>>>>> amazon EC2 cloud for $10 a year. That's what I do, and amazon's
>>>>> website is fully accessible with jaws.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/15/17, Kartik Sawhney <sawhney.kartik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Yeah, will give it a shot. Thanks everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Tony Malykh via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Kartik,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was thinking that if you cannot find a proper solution, you might
>>>>>>> try some hacking.
>>>>>>> What would happen if you don't have putty installed on your computer?
>>>>>>> Maybe the google client would ask you which ssh client to use?
>>>>>>> If not, then what I would do is to replace putty.exe with my own
>>>>>>> program, that just prints out the command line arguments. This way
>>>>>>> you would know how the google client invokes putty. Once you know
>>>>>>> the arguments, you can translate them into a call to ssh.exe from
>>> Cygwin.
>>>>>>> You can even write a program that would do the conversion for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Tony
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Jim Barbour via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure, but that seems like the kind of thing the web
>>>>>>>> browser could be configured to do differently.  That is, launch a
>>>>>>>> different SSH client.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Written While on the Move
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs
>>>>>>>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have been using Cygwin for the past four years, and it works
>>>>>>>>> really well. Unfortunately, I cannot ssh into a Google Cloud VM
>>>>>>>>> on Windows through Cygwin. Apparently, it automatically launches
>>>>>>>>> it in putty, which is getting hard to work with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Louis Maher <ljmaher at swbell.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Kartik ,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Before I retired two years ago, I would have recommended
>>>>>>>>>> SecureCRT  (access Linux through windows) Terminal emulator
>>>>>>>>>> (http://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/) instead of putty.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JAWS worked very well with SecureCRT.  SecureCRT costs around $70.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Maher
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 713-444-7838
>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: ljmaher at swbell.net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>> Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 12:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Kartik Sawhney <sawhney.kartik at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Putty accessibility
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, these do not work anymore. The menu has the
>>>>>>>>>> option to copy everything to the clickboard, but not paste.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Willem Venter via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it in years, but I know you can paste by
>>>>>>>>>>> pressing
>>>>>>>>>>> alt+space and navigating to the edit menu, where there is a
>>>>>>>>>>> alt+paste
>>>>>>>>>>> menu. Also, I'm not sure about this, but double tapping the
>>>>>>>>>>> insert key might paste too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/15/17, Kartik Sawhney via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone used putty before? It seems like the only way to
>>>>>>>>>>>> paste from clickboard is by mouse. Is there a way around it?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, vim does not read out text in the console for some
>>>>>>>>>>>> reason. Are there any workarounds?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Kartik Sawhney,
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1-(510) 766-3419
>>>>>>>>>>>> linkedin.com/in/kartiksawhney/
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