[NFBCS] circling back to the wiki!

Mon Jan 9 23:42:53 UTC 2023

No worries, people are busy.  Sorry to hear about layoffs, hope all is well. 

Over the holiday weekend, I explored Jekyll which happens to also be the engine of Github Pages.  I ended up creating two scripts and storage.

First, a Jekyll template was created and simply stored on OneDrive which was done simply because I sync OneDrive across systems for ease of use and data loss protection.  
Next I created a script that uses the vanilla Jekyll maintained docker container and builds the site from the files.
Lastly a 2nd script which pushes the files from _site up to my hosting.

This whole process could in theory be taken further.  OneDrive could be replaced with Github code repo for versioning.  The scripts for deployment could be replaced with Github action runners and the hosting could remain as is; though I won’t open up access to my hosting provider, but really anything like even AWS S3 could be used.

It’s just a thought I’ll throw out there.  The part I like is that where I have this now I can utilize server-side coding and MySQL if I want to plug in more capability.

I’m happy to share the basics and scripts with anyone here who is interested and we could find something that works for all.  parties I thought Jekyll may be good for is the simplicity of creating and updating content via markdown.  Contributors could always submit markdown to be reviewed and pushed by anyone who has the scripts / permissions to execute the upload.

> On Jan 8, 2023, at 9:11 PM, tyler Littlefield via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm so sorry, this fell to the bottom of my list. I was going to get it done early december and then we had layoffs and a bunch of personal stuff came up. It is on my agenda for this week, however. We will be using Github pages. Part of my time on this is a total uncertainty about the governing of this whole thing. I don't want to be the only one running/accepting content. I'll jump on it and then maybe set up a zoom meeting or something when people can attend so that we can all talk about potential ideas so it's not all on a single person. This can be done via github contributors.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> On 12/28/2022 9:03 PM, charles.vanek--- via NFBCS wrote:
>> Happy Holidays all!  I hope the year end is treating everyone well.
>> Circling back to this circled back thread.  Did anything come of Wiki?
>> 
>> I ask because while getting some downtime from work I looked at Jekyll which
>> powers Github Pages for something entirely different.  However, Jekyll could
>> possibly work well for a tips & tricks site with multiple contributors with
>> a fast and easy way to create and update content.
>> 
>> In short Jekyll is a static page generator from Markdown language for Blog
>> posts.  The Jekyll server can be run in either a docker container or locally
>> on Windows, Mac or Linux to build the static files from the markdown and
>> then push that up to any static hosting service.  Theoretically the markdown
>> and other accompanying files could be stored in a git repo, collaborated on
>> as needed and the site pushed via CI-CD tooling.
>> 
>> Please send your thoughts... also would love to hear if anyone has setup
>> Jekyll.
>> 
>> Best,
>> CV
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of David Farmer via NFBCS
>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 9:07 PM
>> To: charles.vanek--- via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: David Farmer <farmer at aimath.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] circling back to the wiki!
>> 
>> 
>> I can point
>> 
>> accessibilitytools.org
>> 
>> to a particular location, if you want to use that domain name.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> David Farmer
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2022, charles.vanek--- via NFBCS wrote:
>> 
>>> Part of the takeaway also is not to attempt boiling the ocean.  Too
>>> much information will certainly result in outdated material.  Also
>>> that the best content is not that which reproduces mainstream content,
>>> but is a supplement thereto.
>>> 
>>> Ty et al.
>>> For a name, what do you think of "Blind Tips & Tricks".  The short
>>> site could be blindTNT.com  Kind of gimmicky as Blind dynamite.
>>> 
>>> Other thoughts/options:
>>> - blindhowto.com - self-explanatory
>>> - jawsover.com, a merge of JAWS & VoiceOver.  Though this doesn't
>>> convey purpose
>>> - srtips.net  -  The .com of SR Tips is for sale it appears but .net
>>> and others available.  You can probably assume I was thinking Screen
>>> Reader Tips.  Auto correct does change this in Outlook to strips though.
>>> - blindhacks.com is taken and says site coming soon, but .net .org and
>>> others available.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amanda Lacy via
>>> NFBCS
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 5:02 PM
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Amanda Lacy <lacy925 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] circling back to the wiki!
>>> 
>>> My takeaway from that thread was that as blind people, we have less
>>> access to information, and we also access information less
>>> efficiently. Part of this inefficiency comes from having to retry
>>> things that have already proven not to work, and re-invent solutions
>>> that are already available. The wiki should not just be about Computer
>>> Science but a wide variety of topics. When sighted people want to
>>> learn a new skill they go to the internet. We obviously do also, but our
>> results can vary a lot more.
>>> For instance, here is a tool that aims to make it easier to read
>>> scientific papers with a screenreader: https://papertohtml.org
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Ty Littlefield via NFBCS
>>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for the delay. I had a ton of projects on my plate I was trying
>>>> to
>>> finalize/round up. I'm circling back to this and didn't want everyone
>>> to think I had forgotten it.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm quite terrible at titles, anyone have some cool names for this so
>>>> I
>>> can get the domain? The plan is to set it up as a github wiki, and we
>>> can take input that way. I'd also like to find a group of editors and
>>> create some sort of discussion platform (probably a mailing list) to
>>> go along with this all. Any thoughts/ideas here would be great.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Ty
>>>> 
>>>> 
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